Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Princess Luisa of Savoy

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The result was Merge to Emanuele Filiberto, Prince of Venice and Piedmont. —Quarl ^(talk) 2007-03-02 08:10Z

Princess Luisa of Savoy

I can understand having articles about current royalty. But since the Italian monarchy was abolished a long time ago, this baby doesn't fall under that notability category. At the age of 0 she has, of course, done nothing else to merit encyclopedic inclusion. Punkmorten 19:58, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Most deposed royals still maintain their bloodline strictly in hopes of getting their thrones back and are of course the very definition of "old money". Nardman1 20:03, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Delete - Wikipedia:Notability (royalty) says about scions of former ruling lines: if the person was born while the monarchy was still in existence, they are notable...any children of a deposed monarch, even if born after the deposition, are automatically notable...other close relations of formerly reigning royal families must qualify under WP:BIO. (My emphasis.) This princess comes under the last category, and no independent sources are provided to establish notability per WP:BIO. So while in principle I'd agree with Nardman that deposed royals are notable, this one isn't quite close enough to qualify as inherently notable (particularly as she has an elder sister, and is therefore unlikely to inherit the pretendership to the crown of Italy). Walton ^{Vivat Regina!} 20:06, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep Personally I think any HRH is notable but Wiki:Notability (royalty) might not agree with with me.... Jcuk 21:09, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. She does not meet the criteria at WP:ROYAL, having been born to a member of the royal family who himself was born after the monarchy was abolished. She isn't even eligible for the pretendership to the Italian crown, as the Italian monarchy was limited to males as of the time of its abolition. That said, she could still warrant an article some day under WP:BIO if, say, she became a prominent socialite who was frequently mentioned in the media, but she hasn't done that yet, given that she's an infant. There is really nothing to be said about her independently yet; as a second choice, redirect to her father's article, given that her name and date of birth are or should be there already. --Metropolitan90 22:18, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Emanuele Filiberto, Prince of Venice and Piedmont (her father). A similar approach has been used with a number of other princesses of questionable notability. Luisa is mentioned there, and that's about all she merits per WP:ROYAL. PubliusFL 01:01, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
KeepNotability of royalty begins at birth. its not that they have to grow up and do something.DGG 03:36, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I agree with DGG. User:Dimadick
Redirect per PubliusFL Catchpole 11:19, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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