Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Precept, Samadhi, Enlightenment

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. v/r - T P 15:41, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Precept, Samadhi, Enlightenment

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Article does not assert its notability. One link when searching for it on Google, and that link doesn't assert if this "summary of [the Buddha]'s teachings" is a notable summary or not either. Hazillow (talk) 03:52, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

comment—i'm not ready to take a position on this yet, but i want to mention that there's a translation issue. if you search on "precepts, samadhi, and wisdom" (a direct quote from the buddha, found all throughout the mahayana mahaparinirvana sutra (watch out, big pdf there)) like this scholar search and also this gbooks search, you get a fair number of hits. i haven't looked into them enough to know what they mean yet, but i thought i'd point this out for the use of other editors who may want to comment on this afd.— alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 04:39, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Buddhism-related deletion discussions. — — alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 04:46, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep but possibly rename as Three disciplines of Buddhism or something similar. This is a notable topic in Buddhism. There are various translations into English of this three-word summary of Buddhist practice. Sometimes, they are translated as Precept, Meditation and Wisdom. Sometimes as Morality, Meditation, and Wisdom. Sometimes the original terms are transliterated as Śīla, Samadhi, and Prajna. It is related to Threefold Training. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:58, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
question—i thought it was an organization of the eightfold path, but i couldn't quite work my way through it. i'm not arguing with you, but is there some reason not to just redirect this to Threefold Training? is there a difference i'm not seeing? esp since the sources of that article read Śīla as virtue, and Paññā (which is also Prajñā) as wisdom, which would make this article roughly an illiterate version of that one, to my untrained eye.— alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 05:09, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:06, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reply Alf.laylah.wa.laylah, perhaps one is conceptual and the other is about an educational process? I think that both this article and Threefold Training as well have problems in how they present the material to English language readers. I think it would be best if both are kept until someone with Buddhist understanding and good English skills can either differentiate or merge the topics as appropriate. Based on my reading and limited understanding, I think that the topic is notable. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:30, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
keep—fair enough. the topic is clearly notable, as a search in either books or scholar on precept, samadhi, wisdom (rather than enlightenment) will show. thus the article should be kept. if it survives the afd, Cullen328, how would you feel about a move to precept, samadhi, wisdom, since that seems to be a far more common translation?— alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 00:53, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete single source appears to be a content farm and is at apparent odds with many existing well-sourced articles in this area. Stuartyeates (talk) 08:19, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.