Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PLA AFEU Stroller

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The Chinese Wikipedia entry for 漫步者 (Manbuzhe) covers an audio company called Edifier, which calls into question the veracity of the article. At the same time, the qianlong reference discusses a UAV developed at Nanjing Aeronautical University called the "42架", which loosely translates to "Type 42". If and when the name can be confimed based on reliable sources, a new article can be created. Philg88 ^♦talk 07:05, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

PLA AFEU Stroller

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Identical to previously prod deleted version, there is still nothing to indicate this is notable Jac16888 ^Talk 19:51, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:53, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:53, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Philg88 ^♦talk 07:01, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 22:29, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I'd really rather not deal with this article. I don't read Chinese. However, the article has already been relisted twice, with no comments. Is there a mechanism for asking for help from someone who can take a look? [note added after original comment: is it considered canvassing to ask for help from the article creator?] I've spent far too much time on something a Chinese reader could probably deal with it in ten minutes. Here's what I found:
- I took a look at the two references listed in the article. Both are in Chinese. Google translate refused to translate the first reference [1], telling me the page was in Haitian Creole -- and overriding that to use Chinese did no good. Instead, I copyied chunks of text at a time into the translator. The part naming the vehicle translated to: “13:15, "Cruiser" No Air Force Engineering University of appearances. Wingspan of 2.6 meters, 1.75 meters captain, but the weight of 4.5 kg”. The specs match the Wikipedia article. The translated name is different, but I think the Chinese characters are the same, so it's probably just a translation issue (and "Cruiser" may be more apt in this case). However, the portion about the “Cruiser/Stroller is pretty short - the specs, a description of the craft, and a one sentence quote from someone.
- Google took a stab at translating Ref #2 [2] as an entire page, but very little text appeared. When I translated it chunk by chunk, it appeared to be the same as the Ref #1.
- Based on the above, it looks like there's at most one real reference, and a brief one at that. It's very possible there are other articles out there, but I lack the skill to find them. If no one will come forward to help, I think we have to delete the article because proof of notability is currently lacking. I'll withhold my vote for now, to see if we get help. --Larry/Traveling_Man (talk) 00:12, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As a general note, there are about 1,500 articles for unmanned aerial vehicles of China! See List of unmanned aerial vehicles of China for a list of about 1,500 blue links. Maybe some are notable, but it boggles my mind to imagine that there's in-depth coverage, in reliable sources, for each of them. I've left a note at the Aircraft Wikiproject [3] asking for guidance. --Larry/Traveling_Man (talk) 01:23, 20 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's good to know I was wrong about the number of articles. There are 1,500 blue links, but many point to sections within an article; a horribly quick guess would be 150 articles or so. User DexDor said that "...there's no pictures and no indication of how many of each type have been produced so it's hard to tell whether a particular type is just a university project made by combining existing COTS components"[4]. I don't have the stomach to investigate further.--Larry/Traveling_Man (talk) 06:26, 20 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Another comment, asking article creator for help. OK, since no has has objected, I'm going to ping the article creator. @XdeLaTorre:, do you have any comments to the above? Can you provide any reliable sources with in-depth coverage? --Larry/Traveling_Man (talk) 05:19, 20 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or trim and merge into a larger article (e.g. People's Liberation Army Air Force, People’s Liberation Army Air Force Engineering University, PLA AFEU UAVs, Cyclogyro). The article could be recreated if it can be shown that this UAV is more than a student project for a competition - e.g. it has important innovations in UAV technology or it goes into production. DexDor (talk) 06:52, 20 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete [and I unbolded my comments, above]. If someone wants to merge info (per DexDor) that's fine, but I don't know if that's actually a separate action from the delete. I note that the article's creator hasn't responded, but also hasn't made any contributions since 21 September. --Larry/Traveling_Man (talk) 23:24, 22 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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