Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Organization of the New York City Fire Department

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. If an editor volunteers to attempt a salvaging of the content, the page can be undeleted and merged. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 16:28, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Organization of the New York City Fire Department (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Also nominating:

• Organization of the Chicago Fire Department

These articles are excessively and unnecessarily detailed, and mostly uncited, and furthermore I'm not convinced there even needs to be an article about something like this. The appropriate information could be added to the article New York City Fire Department (or relevant parent article) with this as a redirect.

... discospinster _talk 18:03, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. ... discospinster _talk 18:03, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: I'd be more inclined to keep this if it had better sourcing. Very extensive, but could all be OR. I honestly can't find sources with this level of details. Oaktree b (talk) 18:41, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Since your Canadian please look at the Toronto Fire Services page to see what you think and if something like that should be done for the FDNY page? Tom950 (talk) 21:50, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  I don't see what an editor's nationality has to do with a discussion on deleting an article. If your editing, Tom950, is based on your nationality, perhaps a neutral-point-of-view encyclopedia isn't the best place for you. Owen× ☎ 22:15, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge sourced portions, if any, with New York City Fire Department and Chicago Fire Department, respectively. Owen× ☎ 20:43, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

When it comes to the Los Angeles Fire Department page and the Toronto Fire Services page everything is on one page. Besides individuals who have an interest in firefighting enjoy reading this type of stuff. Tom950 (talk) 21:49, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There are other places where this specific information might be more appropriate, such as Fandom (e.g. Fire.fandom.com). General encyclopedias do not go into this level of detail. If you'll notice, there aren't articles about the company organization of, e.g. Apple or Walmart or other types of organizations. ... discospinster _talk 22:19, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge sourced portions with New York City Fire Department and Chicago Fire Department per OwenX. While this needs quite a bit of work to be salvageable, I will note that sources do exist for some of these fire stations, if not other parts of the articles - for example, many of the NYC fire stations are mentioned in the AIA Guide to New York City and the Guide to New York City Landmarks for their historical significance - so it may be worth splitting off the fire stations to their own lists. – Epicgenius (talk) 16:57, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete It seems to need to be deleted unless by adding more related adequate sources; or perhaps at most, it can be merged in a related page. Ali Ahwazi (talk) 08:15, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.