Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nick Bracks

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The argument that notbaility is not inherited and that there is no assertion of independent notability is most compelling; any role he may have played in his father's political career is probably suitable for a mention in another article, but the consensus would seem to suggest that there isn;t enough here to build a proper biography. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:20, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nick Bracks

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son of someone notable, only "notable" due to driving drunk while being the son of someone who is notable. Gaijin42 (talk) 04:55, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The drunk driving piece doesn't seem very much different from routine coverage for family relations of celebrities. It's really an apology piece. The Sun piece about his acting aspirations is a couple of sentences, and his bio for Dancing With The Stars is a classic WP:BLP1E case. I, Jethrobot ^{drop me a line} (note: not a bot!) 05:14, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Notability is not inherited, and getting arrested for drunk driving is not an exception to that general principle. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:37, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. —Grahame (talk) 01:39, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

strong delete as per WP:NOTINHERITED. I'd like to see the inclusionists rescue this one. LibStar (talk) 01:51, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately Keep. Publicity hungry famous for being famous people are unfortunately notable in our celebrity driven era. Unlike some reality shows, the last word in the title of the TV show he was on indicates that in Australia, at least according to the TV station involved, he was considered a star. BLP1E doesn't apply as the google news search shows many different times and events that have been reported on in major Australian newspapers. The-Pope (talk) 01:55, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

yes for the one event. Take away this event is he really known for anything? LibStar (talk) 02:15, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So far we have the drink driving incident, 8 episodes of DWTS, Cleo BOTY, being a model, being an event host, being a Melb C-list celebrity. Seems slightly more than 1 event. The-Pope (talk) 03:45, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

we don't create articles for C list celebrities. LibStar (talk) 13:18, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I don't think that the level of coverage available is sufficient to satisfy WP:BIO Nick-D (talk) 09:09, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
GNG? Check. More than one event? Check. Assertion of notability? Fail. This five-line stub essentially boils down to "went to uni, crashed a car, now models while trying to break into the acting scene". The assertion of notability requirement is there specifically to guard against trivia like this. Delete.--Yeti Hunter (talk) 10:55, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep. Is believed to have played a massive part in his father retirment, which affected the Labor party and the election. A page which should be keep and improved as he has effected the State more then many Ministers. Simply he has effected history and should be keep asWikipedia:Notability_(people)#Any_biography. Ray-Rays 19:41, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

that he has affected the state more than many Ministers is pure WP:SYNTH. I see no coverage from political journalists or mention in the Victorian parliament saying that Nick Bracks was the major influence in Victorian politics. LibStar (talk) 21:52, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:47, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Notability is not inherited. We wouldn't be discussing except for his dad. Doctorhawkes (talk) 07:43, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.