Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Needle Art

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Textile arts. Any merging deemed necessary can be done from the history. Sandstein 07:47, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Needle Art

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Delete, no need for a stand alone article which lacks resources aside from wikipedia and does not have enough mass to make it perhaps move to Wikitionary Hell In A Bucket (talk) 08:06, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Textile arts. I think the two are sufficiently similar - this article focuses on arts which combine needle and textile. And this article is less developed (though Textile arts could be expanded itself). --Colapeninsula (talk) 11:11, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Arts-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:07, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Automatic Strikeout (T • C) 01:44, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per Colapeninsula. Needle art is a plausible redirect and totally encompassed by the subject matter of Textile arts. Ducknish (talk) 01:58, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and then move to Needle arts. A Google Books search shows that this is a broad and notable topic encompassing Embroidery, Cross-stitch, Quilting, Crewel embroidery, Bargello (needlework), Cutwork, Appliqué and so on. It may also include Hand knitting, Crochet, Point de Venise and other forms of Lace. This is a notable topic, and the solution to the shortcomings of the article as it now exists is to expand it, improve it and reference it, rather than deleting it. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:34, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that the topic is very similar to that of textile arts, which also includes Applique, Beadwork, Crochet, Embroidery, Felting, Knitting, Lace, Needlework, Quilting, Sewing, etc. Why do we need 2 separate articles? We shouldn't have 2 articles on the same topic. --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:01, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Textile arts. – SJ + 03:20, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Textile arts. Needle art encompasses a subset of textile arts, but there are textile arts that don't involve a needle, such as fabric dyeing, braiding, and you could make a case for weaving, too. I appreciate Cullen's point that a good article could be written for needle arts, but at this point, I think users wanting to know about needle arts would be better served by a redirect to textile arts, and from there to various kinds of needle arts. Hence I recommend a redirect, but there is absolutely no prejudice to forking the redirect into a well-referenced and well-linked article by an ambitious editor. --Mark viking (talk) 00:09, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.