Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NYPD Pipes and Drums

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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Ostrichyearning3 (talk) 20:05, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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No independent notability. Ostrichyearning3 (talk) 18:45, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 19:13, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 19:13, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: it's not enough on its own to turn this into a "keep", but the NYPD Pipes and Drums are the band featured in the video for the Pogues' song "Fairytale of New York" [1], [2]. But really there needs to be some notability shown for the band itself. Richard3120 (talk) 19:50, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing that out, it's certainly more than a routine appearance. There could be a useful article about the band on wikipedia, I'm happy to withdraw the nom and do some work on it if you think it's marginal? Most of the pipe band articles that have been AfDed have been much less notable so there's not much consensus on where the line is for pipe bands. Ostrichyearning3 (talk) 19:24, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• @Ostrichyearning3: WP:HEY I did a little source/expand. Ran into the Pogues' song "Fairytale of New York" in my searches, too, but didn't add it. I think the article as it now stands can be kept, but it would be a better article if you have time to add "Fairytale of New York". Cheers. E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:43, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• probably keep. Although local, this search of NYTimes [3] archive has WP:SIGCOV going back many decades. E.M.Gregory (talk) 01:46, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep INDEPTH sourcing available in national and international sources. WP:HEY added a little of it. E.M.Gregory (talk) 02:03, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Ran a Proquest news archive search and can see articles from papers across the U.S. and Canada about this band marching in parades, and giving concerts. Some of it is minor, Traveling to give concerts is something bands do, Washington for the Inaugural parade and so forth, could be summarized in a sentence sourced to articles about major gigs. Obits for a long-time band conductor. founding date in article is probably incorrect it seems to be the starting date for a particular conductor, but band appears to have existed already. As I said, this one clearly just needs an editor to write and source it. I'll try to get back to it. access to news archives is really useful here - lots of old articles to comb through.E.M.Gregory (talk) 02:17, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• WP:HEY, article modestly expanded with WP:SIGCOV.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:42, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good, cheers for the input!! I'll withdraw the nomination. Ostrichyearning3 (talk) 20:04, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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