Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NAVGTR Awards (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. Missvain (talk) 02:28, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The previous discussion was closed as delete in May. It still appears that WP:GNG is not met. There are many sources that talk about the individual nominations and winners, which appears to be a WP:RUNOFTHEMILL situation. The only exception I can find is this VentureBeat piece, which is already used in the article. Pinging previous discussion contributors @Axem Titanium, 69.157.252.96, Haleth, Daask, Woodroar, Sergecross73, SnowFire, Sjones23, Masem, Dissident93, Namcokid47, and Czar. IceWelder [✉] 10:09, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. IceWelder [✉] 10:09, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete As one of two keep votes in the last discussion. I was persuaded that the VentureBeat article is not a usable source to indicate notability by this comment:

  The VentureBeat article has this warning on it: "This post has not been edited by the GamesBeat staff. Opinions by GamesBeat community writers do not necessarily reflect those of the staff." Bitmob was a former video game website that allowed anyone to post news/opinion articles and if they got popular, they would get editing support from the paid staff. As such, it is considered WP:UGC and therefore not reliable.
  — Axem Titanium, 1 May 2020

  I'm not sure why this wasn't deleted after the last discussion. Daask (talk) 10:20, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy delete Pretty obvious WP:G4 even if it started out as a different name._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 10:29, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I created this second page but I wasn't aware there was a previous one that had a discussion and was deleted. I don't understand why there wasn't a consensus when a Wikipedia page for these awards already exists for other languages like Spanish, with a different page to list only the awards. https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAVGTR_Awards https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Categor%C3%ADas_de_los_NAVGTR_Awards I created this page because when I googled the awards this Spanish Wikipedia article was one of the first results and I thought there should be an English version as well.Wikiabitbetter (talk) 10:53, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• • The notability policies in other language Wikipedia sites can vary from the one on the English Wikipedia. Just because one language site has an article on something doesn't necessarily mean the English one should have one too. Namcokid47 ^(Contribs) 15:19, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • This is correct. The various language Wikipedias operate under the same general premise, but also separately from one another, so they often have their own interpretations and approaches to doing things. The English Wikipedia is often viewed as the strictest when it comes to interpretation and enforcement. Even beyond that, one needs to keep in mind that just because an article or some content exists doesn’t mean it’s acceptable or okay. It might just be that you found something that shouldn’t exist that no ones noticed it yet. Sergecross73 msg me 17:24, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per last discussion and its consensus. Nothings changed. Sergecross73 msg me 14:17, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per previous AfD. There is no new significant coverage of the subject. Woodroar (talk) 15:16, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per last discussion. My opinion hasn't changed. Namcokid47 ^(Contribs) 15:19, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete No evidence that this is notable and the fact that there is an existing Spanish language article is

Irrelevant because it could be possible that that version of Wikipedia has different standards or that article doesn’t meet the standards either, slipped through the cracks and should be deleted there.--65.92.160.124 (talk) 17:29, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per last AFD. Awards tend to outwardly project more notability than they actually have because they're Fancy. But award mills are a thing, preying on this common misperception. We need a notability guideline specifically for awards, IMO. Axem Titanium (talk) 20:31, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per previous consensus and others. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 21:21, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. Videogameplayer99 (talk) 23:56, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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