Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miss Universe special awards

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus is clear. Drmies (talk) 01:36, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Side show from Miss Universe. Unsourced and to my opinion fancruft. The Banner talk 01:19, 25 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong Delete to rip off some points by User:FeatherPluma on a similar AfD I started... This material is technically unverifiable because its sourcing is unknown and the sourcing is unretrievable on attempting a reasonable search. Technically, unless an editorially reviewed journalist were to compile this in a proper WP:RS, and no actual journalist would bother, only the organization itself could hope to generate or maintain a correct list that corresponds to its organizational rules and procedures, which can change (and actually have) over time. The sole purpose of this table is commercial promotion. The organization itself or a fan site could opt to host any definitive official data they wish to maintain for their commercial purposes but in my searches, the pageant businesses don't care enough about past results to keep such lists available to the public on their websites, so why should we? Legacypac (talk) 01:31, 25 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete This information should be in the main Miss Universe page. It should not be a stand alone article Seasider91 (talk) 17:57, 25 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - on the note that this article serves a purpose for people interested in knowing these facts. Sources needs to be improved definitely but that is not a reasoning for deletion. The list is notable. --BabbaQ (talk) 23:58, 25 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - information of the prizes is not in the official website of Miss Universe. therefore it is part of the history of the pageant and do not propaganda. They are still in force this awards. • Evanex (talk) 04:3, 04 January 2016 (UTC)
  • I do not call it propaganda, I call it fancruft. Not even the official website of Miss Universe mentions it, so why does it need a separate article? The Banner talk 11:36, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 04:12, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 04:12, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I see three strong policy based deletes and one ILIkEIT vote, that is more then many AfDs get so why the relist? Legacypac (talk) 11:57, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete since all of this information is unverifiable, it does not belong in an encyclopedia. For all we know, much of the page has been made up, and nobody would know. That makes this list useless. Since the pageant itself does not keep records, per the editors above, then the information remains unverifiable. I did search the site and various mentions of special awards come up, but not in any organized manner and generally as a series of captions to pictures. Regardless, those pages are not reliable or independent of the source, and demonstrates that this page fails the WP:GNG. If individual special awards can be verified, they can be added to the year's page in question. FuriouslySerene (talk) 14:23, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.