Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miss Universe 2011

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 15:48, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Universe 2011

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Per WP:CRYSTAL and WP:HAMMER, a future competition whose venue, competitors, etc. are not yet known is neither subject to sufficient verifiable coverage nor necessarily notable enough to warrant inclusion in Wikipedia. The article contains only a single sentence and a list of nations that may compete or may vie to host the event. Delete the page, with no prejudice against recreating at such time as verifiable information is available.

Note that I PRODed the page on 5 April with the concern, "A future beauty pageant that will presumably be held in 2011, but whose venue, contestants, etc. cannot yet be known. Fails WP:HAMMER." Prod tag was removed by the page's creator, Bigb0x, a few hours later with no edit summary and no changes to the page's content. Cnilep (talk) 14:38, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. —Cnilep (talk) 14:46, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - I missed this one last week when I was nominating the 2012 and 2013 contests for deletion, but I use the same reason as those two - i.e. that it fails Wp:CRYSTAL. (I originally started 2012's as well, but it was taken into its own AfD after 2013 was speedied.) DitzyNizzy (aka Jess)|(talk to me)|(What I've done) 19:31, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmyers1976 (talk • contribs) 18:44, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The reason for your nomination of deleting my article "Miss Universe 2011" is unreasonable and ignorant. According to the "Rules of Wikipedia", any articles with provided sources are allowed. Therefore my article "Miss Universe 2011" is NOT to be deleted, because it is backed by reliable INTERNATIONAL sources. Besides, the venue of this year´s Miss Universe 2010 is not known yet as well, yet it has an article. No deletion. Full stop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigb0x (talk • contribs) 11:47, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Bigb0x, please read WP:CRYSTAL. The Miss Universe 2011 article fits the description of the kind of article WP:CRYSTAL seeks to avoid to a tee. Your post above calling people "unreasonable" and "ignorant" violates WP:CIVIL, as does your insistence that "my article is NOT to be deleted." Sorry, Wikipedia doesn't work that way, it works on consensus, and if the consensus is that this article should be deleted, it will be deleted. Also, since you said "my article", you obviously need to read WP:OWN.Mmyers1976 (talk) 16:07, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have read the above-mentioned rules of Wikipedia and I repeat it again, I don´t see any violations of rules cinsidering the creating of the article Miss Universe 2010. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigb0x (talk • contribs) 19:26, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Bigb0x, the mere existence of a similar article does not automatically qualify as evidence that an AfDed article should be kept; in many cases, it is just a matter of no one having gotten around to AfDing the similar article yet. In the case of Miss Universe 2010, considering the fact that the exact date and venue of the event have not been announced, it does look to fail WP:CRYSTAL. I'm going to AfD it now that it has been brought to my attention.Mmyers1976 (talk) 20:27, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: Although the exact date and venue of the event have not been announced, WP:CRYSTAL does permit full discussions about possible venues, host cities, candidates, competitors, etc., as long as the content is verifiable and cited. However, looking at the current state of this article, there seems to be not enough cited content to warrant a separate page, and what is cited now could easily be merged into the main Miss Universe article. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:47, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This article should not be deleted. There has been articles that Vietnam will be hosting the pageant once again for its biggest 60th anniversary of Miss Universe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manhpham (talk • contribs) 00:46, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: This isn't an encyclopedic article, it's a calendar of events w/o enough verifiable information to become more at the moment.  Mbinebri  ^{talk ←} 21:55, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If there are contests competition coming up this year then there will be a pageant on next year. there are information of what and where the pageant maybe heard. Of course I don't run this page but I know that it should stay —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manhpham (talk • contribs) 08:13, 12 April 2010

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