Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Misato Murai

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The result was Draftify. Those arguing for keep failed to establish NACTOR had been met. There is possibly one major role in a notable production, but that is insufficient to meet the guideline. I was considering closing this as redirect to Stand My Heroes as suggested by Link20XX but not only does that page not mention her, but their is not a cast list at all. SpinningSpark 17:05, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Misato Murai

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I do not think this person meets WP:NACTOR. Per NACTOR, they must have multiple significant roles in notable productions. Looking at their roles list, most of them are "boy" or "passersby", which I strongly doubt are more than additional voices. As for their named roles:

• W'z, just the "young" version of the character. While I haven't seen this series, from what I have seen of other series the "young" voice is rarely used and only makes brief appearances when it does.
• Stand My Heroes: Piece of Truth, not a notable production.
• Ahiru no Sora, this role is listed at the very bottom of the list with no description, unlikely a major role.
• Sing "Yesterday" for Me, young version only.
• Smile Down the Runway, young version only.
• Tsukiuta, young version only
• Kingdom, character is not even mentioned in the list.
• Peach Boy Riverside, character is 10th on the list with no description, unlikely to be a major character.

A WP:BEFORE search didn't give me much additional coverage either. Not to mention the creator of the article is currently at SPI and has been accused of WP:COI editing. Link20XX (talk) 17:34, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Link20XX (talk) 17:34, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-05-14/stand-my-heroes-anime-1st-promo-reveals-misato-murai-as-protagonist/.146703 Stand My Heroes Anime's 1st Promo Reveals Misato Murai as Protagonist. Peach Boy Riverside he is listed as a main character https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=184346 Bold means main/major character on a show. Kaine is a significant character in the Kingdom series according to fandoms. A recurring supporting antagonist. Dream Focus 17:34, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't see how Kaine could be a re-occuring character if they have only made small appearances in one of the series three seasons. The ANN encyclopedia has a very low bar to bold a character as major. I have now seen a bit of Peach Boy Riverside and I can confirm that character makes only small appearances. As for the first point you made, WP:NACTOR requires productions to be notable to count, which Stand My Heroes: Piece of Truth is not. The Japanese article ja:村井美里 also has a bold system for major characters, however the only one bolded is the role in Stand My Heroes: Piece of Truth, which is not notable. NACTOR also requires multiple significant roles, meaning more than one. Link20XX (talk) 18:08, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • https://www.imdb.com/name/nm10631701/ Peach Boy Riverside he has been in six episodes. If the voice actor gets a news article about them being the main character in a series, that adds to their claim of Wikipedia notability. Stand My Heroes is a notable anime since it gets news mention about. I just created a stub article for it. Dream Focus 21:47, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • (edit conflict) You're really using IMBd for that? I say as someone who has seen the episodes of it that have been released, it is not a major role. As far as Stand My Heroes, it now has an article so it counts, however, NACTOR explicitly states that multiple are required. Link20XX (talk) 21:50, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment For what it's worth, the various Yo-kai Watch roles are also all minor roles; a "young" version of a main character and then a bunch of minor one-off characters. Mlb96 (talk) 21:54, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • However, the jawiki article includes this, which seems to be secondary coverage of an interview. I have no idea if this source should be treated like an interview or like secondary coverage. Mlb96 (talk) 22:30, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • I admit my Japanese isn't good, however, that post appears to be covering the radio show and just states that she had an appeance on it, not really SIGCOV. On the topic of possible ATDs, I wouldn't be opposed to redirecting to Stand My Heroes since this is her only major role. Link20XX (talk) 00:02, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete or Incubate The lack of multiple, notable major roles (nor significant contributions under point 3 of WP:NACTOR) should make this a pretty open and shut case. Incubate could be an option here, but the author has yet to engage in this discussion - making it unclear how useful incubation would be. As a result of not meeting notability (without comments from the author indicating any interest disputing this deletion nor proposing alternative options) deletion seems like the best option here. There is only consensus on one role being a major one, and I don't see how the other roles currently listed, fit NACTOR. Canadianerk (talk) 12:04, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Misato has done one major role but she did small and supporting roles too. She has voiced Todoroki in anime Peach Boy Riverside and recently she will be voicing more characters in different animes.(BeauSuzanne (talk) 13:54, 18 October 2021 (UTC))[reply]
  • It's great she has done one major role, and has done small and supporting roles. But when it comes to NACTOR, it needs to be multiple major roles. This is why I proposed incubating - returning it to your drafts, and you can easily repost when she gets a second (or more) major roles. In the interim, the post as it is today does not meet notability requirements - it shouldn't just be left up in hopes she gets announced for another major role.Canadianerk (talk) 13:06, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as TOOSOON. ^Ramaswar_(discuss) 19:52, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete or Draftify per WP:TOOSOON. Currently fails GNG and NACTOR.4meter4 (talk) 20:32, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete or Draftify - does not pass GNG or subject-specific notability standard. Future notability cannot be predicted. Ganesha811 (talk) 21:57, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Currently a case of WP:TOOSOON. MrsSnoozyTurtle 05:52, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.