Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miller Landing, Alaska

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The result was merge to Homer, Alaska. D'oh! :) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:08, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Miller Landing, Alaska

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I'm honestly unsure what to do here. Miller Landing never existed as a separate and distinct named settlement, but at one point it was a Census-designated place. It has always been considered part of Homer, Alaska, and for about the last ten years it has legally been part of it. warning, minor WP:OR ahead I live and work near here, and without getting into too much detail, my job often includes giving and receiving directions to places in and around Homer. In 12 years at this job I have never heard anyone refer to this area by the name "Miller Landing". end OR So, this small area was a homestead of a guy named Miller in 1915 [1] (scroll down to "Historical Milestones and Related Trivia") and for a time the census bureau considered a separate settlement, but as far as I can tell Alaska itself never did. So, it's not a ghost town or anything, it does still exist as a part of Homer but has never really been considered a town of its own. So, what do we do with it? Beeblebrox (talk) 21:44, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Alaska-related deletion discussions. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:46, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge the appropriate parts to Homer, Alaska. If Homer's website considers Miller Landing a part of Homer, then it makes sense for Wikipedia to do so too. If there are enough sources about the place for it to pass WP:GNG, then it could have its own article, but I couldn't find any in-depth coverage when I searched Google News/Books. For the record, it seems to be a different place than Miller's Landing, which is about 70 or 80 miles to the east. — Mr. Stradivarius ^♫ 23:08, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Alaska can be kind of annoying like that, they seem to have had a shortage of original ideas when naming stuff. In fact the original version of this article was about the other place over at Lowell Point. There's also an area called Bear Creek over by Seward and another one over by Homer. It can get confusing. I suppose we could maybe expand the main article on Homer to cover the annexation, it was quite the controversial topic here at the time, and it resulted in Miller Landing, parts of Diamond Ridge, and a few other unincorporated areas being added to Homer. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:13, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge The timeline suggests that the beginnings of continuous settlement (as opposed to its founding years, which suggests a boom-and-bust-to-ghost-town arc) actually began in Miller Landing, as opposed to the present-day downtown Homer. There's an "Old Town" in Homer which is a standard townsite plat, but if I remember, its size is about two city blocks. I haven't been to Homer in many years, but when I last walked through that "Old Town," it consisted mostly of vacant lots (still lots of them, per Google Street View). Next to that is the actual downtown, which always struck me as a random collection of subdivisions and deed lots rather than an actual platted townsite. Based on that, I'm not sure exactly how and from where downtown Homer evolved. Perhaps all this could be researched more and become a valuable addition to the history section of the Homer article, which jumps from mentioning 1896 in one paragraph to 2006 in the very next paragraph.RadioKAOS (talk) 02:00, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Trying to navigate Homer has been described as like being just outside a town you can't quite find, because it is broken up into chunks. Google needs an update though, in the last few years old town has actually had quite the builing boom. There's a bunch of new buildings designed to look old and quaint. Then there is the bypass, where all the banks, grocery stores, etc are, Pioneer Avenue is essentially the "downtown" with lots of bars, galleries, gift shops, etc, then there is another business district across the lake on Ocean Drive, the harbor and associated tourism and fishing businesses four miles away on the Homer Spit, and finally the East side, about 2 miles outside the central area, where Miller Landing is. Most of that area, if I coresctly understand how it is being defined, is actually this rather large boatyard which still employs the old Miller hoestead boat haul-out, updated of course for modern fishing vessels. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:36, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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