Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marbella Apartments

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The result was keep. Randykitty (talk) 14:59, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Marbella Apartments

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An apartment building. No indication whatsoever of how this meets WP:NBUILD which require the building to have " historic, social, economic, or architectural importance" and receive significant coverage from reliable sources. Rusf10 (talk) 16:09, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Rusf10 (talk) 16:09, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions. Rusf10 (talk) 16:09, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep It was the tallest in Jersey City when built but is now not so outstanding. But a second tower has been built in the complex. That seems to be known as "M2 at Marbella" and, being newer, is easier to find sources for, e.g. this. There's no reason to delete this developing complex as our policies WP:ATD, WP:NOTPAPER and WP:PRESERVE apply. Andrew D. (talk) 18:57, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Lots of coverage, I added a few sources to the page. More sources available at nj.com, [1], the website owned by teh Star Ledger tha thosts many New Jersey newspapers.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:19, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included by Andrew D. in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:00, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to List of tallest buildings in Jersey City Djflem (talk) 10:16, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. . If it was notable for being the tallest in thecity once, it remains notable--just as for every topic. Large buildings likethis usully have sufficient sources if looked for carefully, , as does this. The article isn';t promotional , which can sometimes be a problem. DGG ( talk ) 06:19, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep for reasons cited above. No compliance with WP:Before. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:11, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep once a subject is notable it remains notable. Lubbad85 (☎)(Edits) 13:27, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep notable and well sourced. Barca (talk) 17:19, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to tallest buildings in Jersey City. Unfortunately, the keep !votes above haven't identified the fact the sourcing here is actually quite terrible - the best is entirely promotional from nj.com and still only mentions the building about four times. The rest just offer passing mentions of the building. On the whole, the building fails WP:GNG. We're better off redirecting it. SportingFlyer T·C 05:55, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• New York Times: 2 New Buildings on the Waterfront; Rental Towers In Jersey City : Construction is to begin next month on the 283-unit Portofino and next year on the Marbella, with 278; both will have studio to three-bedroom apartments. The buildings will rise across Washington Boulevard from each other in the 82-acre Hudson Exchange mixed-use development. The Newport residential-retail-office project is to the north and the Harborside Financial Center is to the south. Garden State Development of Jersey City and the Seltzer Group of Manhattan acquired the parcels, totaling 3 1/4 acres, on June 23 from National Bulk Carriers of Manhattan. With Jersey City in the midst of an economic boom there continues to be a significant demand for this type of product, said Peter G. Mangin, president of Garden State Development. Monthly rents at the Portofino, where occupancy is set for late 1999, will be $1,200 to $2,800. Marbella rents have not yet been set. Financing for the $94 million project, Mr. Mangin said, is coming from Lehman Brothers, a bank that he declined to name until a contract has been signed, and the developers' own equity, and was arranged by the Greenwich Group International, a real estate investment banking concern in Manhattan. The architect is Schuman Lichtenstein Claman & Efron of Manhattan.
• New York Times: Manhattan Skyline Views, Trump Style: Currently, the tallest residential building in New Jersey stands only two blocks away from the Trump Plaza site. It is the 40-story Marbella apartment building at 425 Washington Boulevard.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:26, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• I saw both of those. I have no idea how they're WP:SIGCOV. SportingFlyer T·C 20:56, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Revisited, added two more sources. More coverage exists.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:43, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Reliable sources proving it is notable have been found and the article expanded. Dream Focus 16:50, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.