Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maradonia and the Seven Bridges

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 23:48, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maradonia and the Seven Bridges

A self-published book by a fairly young writer who has made unsubstantiated claims of being the world's youngest author. The book itself does not meet WP:BK standards. Pastor Theo (talk) 23:27, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. To my certain knowledge the "world's youngest author" claim is false, even if it's supposed to refer to published authors--see [1]. I really don't see how this meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines for books so I can't see grounds for keeping this.—S Marshall ^Talk/_Cont 00:47, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. The article doesn't claim she's the world's youngest author but the world's youngest person to have completed a full-length novel which has been (self)-published. That could potentially be true, so I'm retracting my delete !vote while I check.—S Marshall ^Talk/_Cont 00:50, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, the claim's not obviously disproveable. I'll run with ~~Move~~ to Gloria Tesch because if it's true, it's her that's notable rather than the book.—S Marshall ^Talk/_Cont 00:58, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete because I attach no value to the moniker "youngest ever to...", unless it involves climbing Mt. Everest. (Sorry, S M.)There is media coverage: an article in the online Suncoast News (and she is a cutie petootie), and a mention in The Times from South Africa (which helps establish the "youngest" claim). There is nothing more, not for the author either, in Google News, and so either way there is no reason for me to suggest keeping this. Drmies (talk) 04:26, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Reads more like a book review than it does a Wikipedia article. The last sentence, "The fans of Stephen King, Anne Rice, Stephenie Meyer, and J.K. Rowling will have to prepare another shelf to collect the treasured works of this outstanding new and young author, Gloria Tesch.", reads like an advertisement, making this article fail in WP:NOTDIRECTORY - Fastily (talk) 07:05, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment(after swearing at the screen for the spam filter killing my contribution) I'll do it without links this time. To name a few: Libby Rees, McKenna Andrews and Al Wilde were all younger when they got published (the latter one is a full length novelist too). And that's just the names I could dig up or remember. I'm positive that more exist I'm unaware of. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:19, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Also a comment, I cleaned it up some, thinking that *ahem* the author might have something to do with the other author, so to speak, and that they might want it userfied in a somewhat encyclopedic style. However, the article history seems a bit strange to me--I can't figure out what the allegiances are. If someone claims "ownership" they are welcome to have it, if the admin will send it on. Drmies (talk) 15:11, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Maradonia and the Seven Bridges should be improved, and spell checked, "Tescha"? it is really Tesch. Before you post anything it should be improved and supported by other reasources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiapedia (fact finder) (talk • contribs) 19:12, March 9, 2009
- Your comments on the actual novel are best uttered on Amazon or some other forum. I would urge you to not reinstate completely unencyclopedic language to an article, especially if it is unverified and full of praise that sounds like a publisher's blurb. Wikipedia is not a billboard. Also, I don't need to be supported by resources, I don't think, except for financial resources. Are you the writer of the book? Drmies (talk) 02:38, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:BOOK especially since it's self published, lacks notability. some minor Google hits, but not enough attention from 3rd party sources.--Rtphokie (talk) 03:27, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please ask yourself, has there every been a novelist who wrote an 800 page debut novel at that age, and yet completed another novel with nearly the same ammount of pages as the first one, at this very young age? Do your reasearch and not saying authors of short stories are the youngest novelists. Please include in the article that she is not the youngest writer , but instead, she is the youngest novelistItalic text. I hope your editing changes do well, and follow correct information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiapedia (fact finder) (talk • contribs) 03:46, 10 March 2009 (UTC) — Wikiapedia (fact finder) (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

I shouldn't have to ask myself--if you believe this to be a fact, you should prove it, and add references to the article that verify that claim. So far, you've managed to only take sourced information away from the article and to add unencyclopedic and unverifiable language. And by the way, I did in fact do my 'reasearch' (didn't you tell me to check spelling?) by adding verifiable information with the proper sources to the article, thank you very much. Drmies (talk) 04:52, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Tesch isn't the world's youngest novelist, there's a younger author named Nancy Yi Fan who published (with HarperCollins) when she was 11. Technically Fan's work is a novella, not a novel as it comes in at around 30,000 words, but it still qualifies her as a 'novelist'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leriano (talk • contribs) 10:37, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This has obviously gone completely off topic, but rather than edit another editor's comment I thought I would add a link: Nancy Yi Fan. 72.70.2.74 (talk) 14:46, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, I'm now satisfied she's not the world's youngest published novelist.—S Marshall ^Talk/_Cont 16:24, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.