Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mall at Stonecrest 2

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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 04:14, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mall at Stonecrest

Previous AfD here. Contested PROD Yanksox 03:02, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as non-notable. Whack anyone who throws up a strawman of racism to avoid addressing notability. -Amarkov ^blah_edits 03:51, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - seems to fail to proposed WP:MALL. MER-C 06:46, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom & MALL, no syrawman here. SkierRMH 07:30, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. This mall has 1.3 million square feet of space [1] which I believe would help it pass WP:MALL. A mall with five major department stores sounds like it should have a chance to have a decent article on Wikipedia. --Metropolitan90 07:58, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
DELETE I am usually the first to jump to the defense of a NOTABLE mall. This one is not notable. Also, WP:MALL is proposed, it isn't a guideline, it isn't a rule. It holds no more weight than something I would whip up in my sandbox or userspace. --Brian ^{(How am I doing?)} 14:56, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep per the 1.3 million square feet of GLA. Would like to see independent sources. Power centers are generally not regional malls.Edison 18:53, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete - absolutely no assertion of notability anywhere. Moreschi 18:59, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Nothing in Google Books and no non-trivial mentions in News. Also, "This number is big." is not an argument to keep. JChap2007 01:22, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment See the proposed guideline WP:MALL where 1 million square feet of GLA is a breakpoint for regional malls versus lesser malls, as a standard established by the mall industry. Many guidelines have numbers. Numbers are your friend. Edison 15:37, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- But that makes the implicit assumption that regional malls are automatically notable, unlike other malls. -Amarkov ^blah_edits 15:49, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- What I see in WP:MALL is a rephrasing of the primary notability criterion followed by, "Malls at or larger than one million square feet (93000 square meters) of gross leasable area fall under this category in many cases." But where the mall in question does not meet the PNC... JChap2007 16:46, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Nothing to suggest this isn’t just another mall. Fledgeling 02:50, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:NOT a directory of sahopping malls. No evidence this is considered an important or significant example of its kind, no independent non-trivial sources. Guy (Help!) 12:54, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete None of the references or links are independent. The prior AFD doesn't help either, no sourcing is mentioned there. No non-trivial, independent, reliable sources means I have no reason to believe it is notable. GRBerry 02:14, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.