Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lost Kashmiri History

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:37, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lost Kashmiri History

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This Website or Organisation is not notable and every line in this article is pure Original research. Anmolbhat (talk) 15:27, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP

A few reasons as to why this should stay.

1. This is not purely original research as citations have been listed where some of the authors of Lost Kashmiri History have been mentioned directly or the organisation and organisation members themselves has been cited by media outlets as author. Other people have even blogged about Lost Kashmiri History being a good source.

See -

http://www.maryscullyreports.com/lost-kashmiri-history-archives/

http://withkashmir.org/lkh/

http://www.kashmirconnected.com/publications-news/lost-kashmiri-history

2. Please note how other leading media portals both in India and Pakistan use Lost Kashmiri History as a source or author showing the reputation and notability it has. See below.

- https://thewire.in/116787/silenced-exotic-backdrop-called-kashmir/
- The Wire (Indian web publication) is a leading news portal - "Muhammad Faysal is [...] and co-founder of the Lost Kashmiri History Project."

- http://www.dawn.com/news/1270341 - Dawn (newspaper) This is a leading newspaper in Pakistan - "...was born in Srinagar, Kashmir. He's the co-founder of the Lost Kashmiri History Project."

- https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/comment/2017/8/15/kashmir-and-the-festering-legacy-of-partition - "...Arsilan Aziz, founder of the website Lost Kashmiri History, told The New Arab..."

3.Please note how some sources and citations for some Wikipedia pages on media organisations are the media organisation themselves.

4. There has been at least two editors who have helped improve this page and prevent vandalism, rather than try to take it down. Both of these editors are experienced in their own ways. The history log can be seen accordingly. (see User:Cmr08 and User:CASSIOPEIA) This is in the true spirit of Wikipedia.

5. Note this page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helping_Angels - It has not been deleted and some citations and sources lead to blank links. Just a template box put up stating that the article needs improvement. There are many stubs on Wikipedia with very very few sources. Lack of citation (as compared to absence of sources) cannot be the only grounds for deletion especially in a case when there are citations and sources and when notability becomes subjective to the region and area and field it represents. But yes I understand there are grounds where this article doesn't meet notability and sources in certain ways.

6.I have no Conflict of Interest here as I am not part of Lost Kashmiri History. Nor do I have conflict of interest related to the Kashmir conflict. I have started pages related to the Indian Army, the Director General of NIA India as well as Kashmir etc... as can be seen by the type of articles i have started and edited and photographs I have contributed.

7. If the Wikipedia community thinks the page still needs to be removed, according to Wikipedia guidelines, then well, ok, I think the admin and the community at large on Wiki does a wonderful amazing job. Part of the learning. Maybe Lost Kashmiri History may be able to prove notability etc on Wikipedia better after a few months or years.

Cheers :)

DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 19:23, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 20:31, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Fails WP:GNG, for which we require at least two reliable sources that cover the topic in depth. The sources mentioned by the page creator are essentially blog sites, not mainstream news media. (I have written about topics where it is incredibly hard to find main stream sources, e.g., Baloch Students Organisation, where all independent news sources have been suppressed by the state. So I understand the problems. But Kashmir has thriving news media. If this organisation is notable, there should have been coverage.) -- Kautilya3 (talk) 01:02, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment : Rather than deleting this in entirety from Wikipedia, maybe it can be redirected or merged into another article and shortened to a few lines within the new article it is placed in. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 13:39, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you have WP:RS talking about the website, you are always free to add its mention to an appropriate article. That doesn't affect this AfD in any way. Most of the content in the present article is sourced to SPS and blog sites. I don't see anything here that can be salvaged. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:04, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Clearly fails WP:GNG. Adamgerber80 (talk) 12:47, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete one of the many little known organization. Nothing suitable for merge. D4iNa4 (talk) 20:03, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, including for the fact that the 'Keep' vote shows clear POV/advertising is at work, even if the user claims they do not have a POV, which is always a sign of the opposite. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ^ᐐT₳LKᐬ 19:41, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.