Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lock Up (2020 film)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Draftify at article creator's request. (non-admin closure) Vulcan's Forge (talk) 03:14, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Vulcan's Forge: The article was created by Susenaes (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and not by the user who requested draftification. GSS 💬 03:37, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
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An unreleased film by a non-notable film production company fails WP:NFF "Additionally, films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines.
" Wikipedia should not be used as a billboard for marketing or promotion. GSS 💬 02:49, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. GSS 💬 02:49, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 03:13, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: Satisfies WP:GNG, and the film is scheduled to release on 14 August. I encourage TamilMirchi to find more sources. --Kailash29792 (talk) 04:32, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Kailash29792: WP:GNG doesn't apply here especially when there are separate guidelines for the subject type and the policy for unreleased films at WP:NFF is very clear that "if the production company isn't notable unreleased film should not have their own articles". Wikipedia is not a billboard. GSS 💬 04:41, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Notable film with plenty of sources and is to be released soon. This film is releasing in August, so it shouldn't be considered as unreleased. WP:NFF does not apply here because there are sources in the article that indicate that the film is in post-production. TamilMirchi (talk) 17:32, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- This is literally a copy and paste comment of the above !vote and you must be kidding that NFF doesn't apply when it does because the film is not yet released. Also, what you mean by "
This film is releasing in August, so it shouldn't be considered as unreleased.
" are you out of your mind? GSS 💬 17:40, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- This is literally a copy and paste comment of the above !vote and you must be kidding that NFF doesn't apply when it does because the film is not yet released. Also, what you mean by "
- Delete no substantial coverage. The argument that it will be notable is absurd. If it's notable once it's released, then we can have an article, until then, SEE YA! Praxidicae (talk) 17:55, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete I think we need to wait for a theatrical release or on any OTT platform, WP:BALL. - FitIndia Talk Admin on Commons 11:52, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- Fitindia, GSS and Praxidicae, how about draftifying it? Kailash29792 (talk) 12:06, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Kailash29792: Why it was even moved out of draftspace at first place when it wasn't ready? GSS 💬 12:11, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- GSS, because TamilMirchi felt it was ready. I think you're only wanting this article deleted because the film hasn't yet released and the production company isn't notable (well, why are there so many MCU drafts like Thor: Love and Thunder?) Please assess the article after my latest edit and tell me. If you feel it's not good enough, I'll move it back to the draftspace. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:19, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- We have polices to deal with such feelings. I looked at the edits you made recently and they do not satisfy NFF. GSS 💬 14:26, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- GSS, because TamilMirchi felt it was ready. I think you're only wanting this article deleted because the film hasn't yet released and the production company isn't notable (well, why are there so many MCU drafts like Thor: Love and Thunder?) Please assess the article after my latest edit and tell me. If you feel it's not good enough, I'll move it back to the draftspace. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:19, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Kailash29792: Why it was even moved out of draftspace at first place when it wasn't ready? GSS 💬 12:11, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
Keep orRedirectThe article is fine and meets WP:GNG. The last update regarding the release of the film was in June 2020 and I agree that we don't find more updates from other sources.Or at least redirect this article until any development rather than deleting it. Abishe (talk) 14:11, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Abishe: I can understand the reason for redirect, but can you explain "keep"? according to which policy? As you already know that the film is yet to release and GNG doesn't apply in such cases. GSS 💬 14:17, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
@GSS: I am aware of the fact that the article has some issues with meeting notability guidelines and it is unable to cite more sources to verify the release and production of the film. I saw some sources like Newsminute and The Hansindia which included that LockUp is confirmed to be released via the Zee5 platform alongside few upcoming films like Danny. So it implies that the production and post production of the film have been fully completed (which can be evident with the poster released by ZEE5). So in case if it still looks weird then I prefer to keep as a redirect target to Zee5. Abishe (talk) 14:34, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Abishe: As I said above, the last paragraph of NFF state "
Additionally, films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines.
" so since the production company for this film isn't notable we can't have the article at this point. Do you mind reconsidering your !vote? GSS 💬 14:48, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note it's the production of the film that should be notable not the production company, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:26, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- I go with redirect for now as now changed my mind to neither delete or keep the article in mainspace. Abishe (talk) 15:00, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- It is my mistake for creating the article. Kindly move it back to a draft. TamilMirchi (talk) 16:12, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- TamilMirchi, done as suggested. GSS, please close the AfD. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:15, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- It is my mistake for creating the article. Kindly move it back to a draft. TamilMirchi (talk) 16:12, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.