Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of tallest buildings in Bandung

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete List of tallest buildings in Bandung. With none of the listed buildings being individually notable and no evidence of LISTN being satisfied, the deletion arguments are stronger. No prejudice to a relist for List of tallest buildings in Medan, as its late addition to this AFD went almost entirely unnoticed. postdlf (talk) 00:22, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of tallest buildings in Bandung (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)

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Prod removed by page creator without comment. My concern was Buildings simply not tall enough to make this a notable list Gbawden (talk) 06:22, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Indonesia-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 11:19, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Probable delete It's not really the height that matters, it's the notability. There's lots of articles online and published about tall buildings in London or Doha, to take 2 examples, but not much about Bandung; the article is largely cited to a database of construction projects. Almost none of the buildings have Wikipedia articles, so it couldn't even function as an index/list of notable buildings in Bandung. I realise there may be sources in Indonesian, Sundanese, Javan, or other local languages, and that we need to improve Wikipedia coverage of non-western nations. But it doesn't appear to be a notable topic for a list. I'm happy to be proved wrong with references and citations. Any referenced content could be merged to Bandung, but there's a lot of unreferenced entries. Could redirect either to Bandung or List of tallest buildings in Indonesia (which includes a lot of notable buildings). --Colapeninsula (talk) 11:25, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:03, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:03, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, got to agree with Colapeninsula with regards to notability. None of the buildings are notable and the only sources that are provided to affirm height are primary sources, no indication of importance of the list article in general nor any of the entries. Ajf773 (talk) 18:16, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Also nominating this list of non notable buildings

List of tallest buildings in Medan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Gbawden (talk) 11:39, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment I hate the constant drip, drip, drip of AFDs about individual tall buildings and about lists of tallest buildings. This process of considering, and sometimes deleting, isolated buildings or lists seems guaranteed to ensure uneven coverage in Wikipedia and legitimate frustration on the part of contributors. I particularly hate the deletion of lists, because having lists helps by heading off creation of separate articles about buildings. There needs to be a good RFC or other discussion about the big topic area, towards ensuring consistent editing. --doncram 18:24, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Bandung's metropolitan area has population over 8 million, bigger than that of most cities in the U.S. and U.K. (where most AFD editors probably hail from). The list has multiple buildings over 100 metres (330 ft) which is a significant threshold. It is pointless and wasteful to delete list-articles like this. The topic of "tallest buildings in ..." is well-established as notable. One could quibble you want to merge this into List of tallest buildings in Indonesia but that is not proposed and that would not be an improvement, as there is enough separate info about Bandung alone. It is clearly better to have a list-article than separate articles about each of the buildings. There is no controversial or contested information in the article, so I do not see any problems with the sourcing, either. Does anyone seriously dispute whether building X is 128 meters tall or whatever? --doncram 18:24, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Selective merge to Bandung - I'm not seeing much, if any, coverage about buildings in Bandung specifically. However a short section on Bandung's article probably wouldn't hurt (as long as it isn't given too much undue weight), and would probably be a better alternative to complete deletion. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:15, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: Gbawden, whats your point? It seems you are suffering from obsessive Deleting disorder! I am creating a page and you are adding in AFD, one by one! Look at the list of tallest buildings in some western cities like List of tallest buildings in Cardiff, then compare how your views justify discriminating cities from other parts of the world. Dont forget Indonesia is the 7th largest ecnomy of the world. Both Bandung and Medan is large metropolis with huge numbers of colonial buildings and high economic activity. They deserve to be included in the list. The list of tallest buildings are not about heritage, its about height! That's why it has the word tallest!

Bandung is the 2nd most populous city in Indonesia. It has many high rise building already. The city is going through transforming its skyline for last few years. Most of the high rise were built after 2014, as there was height restriction in the city. It needs time and patience to create a new page.There is a page in Bahasa Indonesian 'https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daftar_gedung_tertinggi_di_Bandung'. But in my opinion, the topic needs a page in English. Thnx.

Judging importance of Bandung as an expanding metropolis where high rise buildings are flourishing rapidly, this page should be kept. — Preceding unsigned comment added by M R Karim Reza (talk • contribs) 21:06, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• .Keep, as there are plenty of reference and Bandung is an important cultural, educational & economic hub in Southeast Asia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.124.167.150 (talk) 02:02, 11 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • IP's 114.124.167.150 and 114.124.151.1 have made very little contributions to Wikipedia outside of this AfD. Suspect these are IP hopping by the article creator and both comments should be discarded. Ajf773 (talk) 22:00, 11 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment This AFD is about "List of tallest buildings in Bandung" and there is no "second article". Upon close examination, I do see a later comment within the discussion suggesting another article for deletion. It is not hidden but also it clearly seems not part of this AFD, by my reading of the nomination and looking at the AFD as a whole. There's no amendment of the AFD statement at the top. No one noticed it and no one has commented. Okay, here is my comment: ignore that, please, and let this AFD be about just what it appears to be about. --doncram 14:41, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • The second article AfD needs to be withdrawn by the nominator if we go down that path. I see that the AfD template has been removed from the articles author, I've replaced for now. Ajf773 (talk) 01:55, 16 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This is a constructive article, the article has plenty of references, no need to delete Anoptimistix (talk) 09:06, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete If we keep this article, we will soon see "Tallest buildings in ABC", "Tallest buildings in XYZ", and it wouldnt be long to see "Tallest buildings in Dunkineely". The major/important buildings can be added in the article of the city. No need for merge/redirect. —usernamekiran(talk) 14:26, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• usernamekiran, what do you mean by ABC or XYZ? Do you have any idea about Bandung? Pls try to enrich yourself about world then suggest!

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