Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of minor gods in Age of Mythology and The Titans

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Nandesuka (talk) 01:16, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of minor gods in Age of Mythology and The Titans

This article asserts no notability through reliable sources, and is just a repetition of the characters and gameplay sections of the various Age of Mythology articles. Also, what constitutes "minor" is very vague and is probably original research. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 19:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into the Age of Mythology or Age of Mythology: The Titans articles.--TBC !?! 20:13, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Judge. Eusebeus (talk) 21:46, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Judge, though the use of "minor" is probably an in-game term and not OR. Tempshill (talk) 22:59, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect, do not merge to Age of Mythology. It's an FA so merging isn't needed and could make the article worse overall. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂0) 00:07, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletion discussions. —Pixelface (talk) 04:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep an appropriate way of dealing with these aspects of a major game.DGG (talk) 05:58, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Transwiki and delete Resembles part of a gameFAQ. The game draws a distinction between minor and major gods - you start out by picking one of three (I think) major gods (like Zeus) which has a quite profound effect on the play-style needed to get the most from that affiliation, you then choose from the minor gods in the pantheon as you age up, unlocking different units and slightly altering the tactics which can be employed to come out on top. Cited sentences to that affect either will or should be in the main articles, what isn't needed is a list of the gods and the units they make available, hence why it's a separate article and Age of Mythology is a FA. Players who need to know the ins and outs can open the instruction manual, read the documentation on their game discs or fire up GameFAQs. That said it is nicely laid-out and could be hosted on one of the game wikis, a far more appropriate host. Someone another 07:58, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

that's why we dont need articles on each minor god; as I see it, you give a good explanation of why this should remain here as a separate combination article. It's significant to the game, and does not belong in the main article. DGG (talk) 17:35, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- - It isn't significant to the game though. Each of the pantheons (Norse, Egyptian etc.) operate with distinct playing styles, for instance the Egyptian 'nations' are focused on defensive play, turtling. The play style divides (slightly) when a major god is picked. Pantheon chosen + major god chosen = civilization in Age of Empires III or any other 'Empires' title, they're pretty much the same thing. The minor gods however just open up a couple of minor powers (neither here nor there in the grand scheme) and one of several mythic monster types. The minor gods, as a standalone subject, fall between two stools. They don't define a 'nation' and the mythical units they unlock are already covered as part of the combat system. In isolation, the article is not discussing either of these fundamental aspects of the game, it just lists powers and mythical monsters without giving any indication of what their affect is on play or why the reader should be researching them if they want to find out about the game. The only readers who could read this and take anything away are players who need their memories refreshing. They can consult their manuals, readers who want seriously detailed info about these powers and monsters would have to consult another source (IE a gameFAQ) in order to gleen the details. It's overextension; the impact of these minor gods, who are little more than portraits to be clicked on and items in a technology tree, cannot be discussed in enough detail without resorting to writing a guide, they are very much a minor aspect which are covered collectively under the gameplay section. The units made available are themselves already listed in List of units in the Age of Mythology series, rendering this list even less relevant. Someone another 23:33, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been added to the list of video game deletions. Someone another 08:42, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - NN by definition ('minor gods'). User:Krator (t c) 12:36, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, characters in two notable videogames (as well as actual mythological gods). I can't tell which game each of these are featured in, Age of Mythology or Age of Mythology: The Titans or I might say merge. Each of these mythological gods have their own article and this list is a good starting point for readers to learn about actual Greek, Egyptian, and Norse gods. If necessary the "God Power" and "Myth Unit" cells can be trimmed down. --Pixelface (talk) 16:48, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Krator echoed my initial thoughts, Someone Another confirmed them; this is akin to a list of weapons as opposed to even a list of characters. Nifboy (talk) 00:34, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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