Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States, June 2014

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The result was delete all. $Salvio$ ^{Let's talk about it!} 09:18, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States, June 2014

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Month has not yet occured so there is no reason for this article to exist yet. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, and while I suspect that there will be people who die from LEO during these months, there is no reason to have these lists yet. Zell Faze (talk) 19:56, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This AfD is also nominating the following other pages for deletion for the same reason:

But it is not nominating the series as a whole for deletion. An AfD that may do such things can be found on this page. The nominator for the linked to AfD has withdrawn his AfD. This AfD comes as a result of a few of the issues that were raised at that AfD. Zell Faze (talk) 20:05, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I concur with this argument. The months described in these articles have not yet even begun, thus articles mentioning unpredictable events in them are unnecessary. While Wikipedia may not be a crystal ball, articles describing predicted astronomical events, such as an Eclipse or Transit, are entirely notable, and I support their inclusion in Wikipedia; but seeing as how a killing by law enforcement is almost always completely unpredictable, articles describing these events in the future are pointless. I am Quibilia. (talk) 00:22, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:54, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:55, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:55, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete A clear-cut violation of the crystal policy. Specifically, the article violate section 2 of Crystal, which states that "individual items from a predetermined list or a systematic pattern of names" are not allowed. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 04:32, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:CRYSTAL or Too Soon either way the pages shouldnt exist, although there may be killings unfortunatley they may not even be notable Amortias (T)(C) 21:16, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete the lists for the period from June 2014 to December 2014 per NOTCRYSTAL, without prejudice to their recreation at a future date when NOTCRYSTAL is no longer an issue. It may be that these lists should be speedily deleted under CSD A10 as they add nothing to the parent list. James500 (talk) 13:12, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep What a waste of time. CRYSTAL was designed for things that cannot be predicted with certainty. I scoff at the notion that because the specific circumstances cannot be predicted, that the thing itself cannot. Police killings are statistically inevitable. It is the deletors that are employing a crystal ball, and an obviously faulty one at that. Anarchangel (talk) 17:00, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment By this logic we can legitimatley have a page on the death of any major celebrity on the basis everybody dies Amortias (T)(C) 17:20, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I would suggest reading through WP:Crystal again, specifically section 2. It clearly states that subjects that lack coverage by reliable sources in the present do not deserve an article, even if the subject will inevitably happen at a future date. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 23:09, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - while (sadly) it is statistically likely that at least one person wil be killed by a peace officer each month somewhere, it does not automatically follow that every killing everywhere is notable. Bearian (talk) 16:29, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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