Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Mohammad Hafeez

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The result was merge to Mohammad Hafeez. Tone 08:40, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of international cricket centuries by Mohammad Hafeez

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The minimum number of international centuries to qualify as a list is set at 25, and has been since at least 2012. This is because a century is not a rare feat in cricket, so in order to establish something that does not WP:MIRROR ESPNcricinfo or CricketArchive, we have set 25 as a more notable benchmark for lists, otherwise we head toward WP:NOTSTATS territory. ~~Hafeez himself is unlikely to play international cricket again, so will not be adding to his tally.~~ StickyWicket (talk) 08:38, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions. StickyWicket (talk) 08:38, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. StickyWicket (talk) 08:38, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:NOTSTATS/WP:NOTMIRROR. Content is easily sourced on ESPNCricinfo. Ajf773 (talk) 08:43, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete As per nom. Priyanjali singh (talk) 09:08, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Hafeez himself is unlikely to play international cricket again, so will not be adding to his tally. He was MOTM in Pakistan's most recent international match, so don't write him off quite yet! Spike 'em (talk) 10:12, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment... blimey missed that, thought he was a t20 player in various leagues these days! They do go on and on those Pakistani cricketers, Afridi, Misbah come to mind! StickyWicket (talk) 10:35, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into the parent article per WP:SPLIT. Harrias ^talk 11:57, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Restored my !vote: Spinningspark be careful with your edits: you (presumably unintentionally) removed my comment with the addition of one of your comments. Harrias ^talk 08:21, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Mohammad Hafeez and delete. No size issues with target, and little use in keeping redirect. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 10:27, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- If the material is merged, then the editing history must be preserved somewhere for attribution reasons. This is a requirement of the terms of the licensing. SpinningSpark 11:12, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - Only general unwillingness to preserve history in other ways leads to retention of such redirects. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 11:38, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - "other ways" still involve keeping the page or its history somewhere, not deleting it. SpinningSpark 12:22, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      - All that is legally required is a record/list of the contributors; an edit summary may suffice in this instance as there are so few. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 12:36, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. What is the argument for not merging the list into the person's article? Why does it have to be a deletion? SpinningSpark 11:10, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 13:29, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per my previous comments. SpinningSpark 14:49, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge for now. If in future he gets to 25 100s then I guess the page could be recreated. CreativeNorth (talk) 14:49, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Mohammad Hafeez: per above. it will improve the target article and remove an unnecessary list. Just because a stand alone list can be created, doesn't mean a stand alone list should be created. // Timothy :: talk 15:01, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment... the articles on these similar AfD's were deleted, not merged. We should be consistent.

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Mushfiqur Rahim

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Upul Tharanga

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of international cricket centuries by Shakib Al Hasan. Ajf773 (talk) 10:07, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Then perhaps they should be taken to WP:DRV if this one closes as merge. SpinningSpark 11:05, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Previous AfDs attracted almost no discussion (with nominations and almost all comments except those by Ajf773 based on a magical threshold of 25 that has no basis in policy or guideline) so their value in establishing consensus is very low. There has been far more input into the two AfDs currently in progress (this and this), from which a much clearer consensus can be drawn. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 11:13, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I note the 25 threshold does not even have any basis in the WP:CRIC guidelines (which cannot override community consensus even if it did). It seems to be based entirely on the throwaway reply of one editor to a question in 2012 if the link provided by the nom is anything to go by. SpinningSpark 12:29, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.