Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of fictional currencies (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. Vanamonde (talk) 07:44, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of fictional currencies

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The article is largely WP:OR or WP:INUNIVERSE and gives undue weight to extremely obscure fictional currencies. I see no encyclopedic reason for the list to exist, as the amount of notable fictional currencies with their own articles is so low that they can be counted on one hand, and can be integrated into Fictional currency. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 04:40, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, an indiscriminate list with no possible clear criteria for inclusion. Axem Titanium (talk) 05:23, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The current list seems quite clear and, browsing it, it's good to be reminded that Groo uses Kopins, Ferengi use latinum and the Gamesters of Triskelion use quatloos. Andrew D. (talk) 07:14, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not talking about the clarity of the list itself; I'm referring to the lack of clearly delineated inclusion criteria. You have only made a WP:ITSUSEFUL (non-)argument. Axem Titanium (talk) 19:23, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Passes WP:LISTN. Here's a selection of sources. Andrew D. (talk) 07:14, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As I said in my rationale, none of those are things that merit a separate list article. All of these refs can be used in fictional currency without creating an article or list so long that it needs to be spun out._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 08:10, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:49, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:49, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Finance-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:49, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: does not meet WP:LISTN; the entries themselves do not appear to be independently notable. The sources offered above are better suited for the existing article Fictional currency. The list is not need at this stage. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:05, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- From WP:LISTN: "Because the group or set is notable, the individual items in the list do not need to be independently notable..." So your argument regarding LISTN is contradicted by that guideline's language. postdlf (talk) 13:59, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is so many different kinds of cruft that I don't even want to list them, and there is no practical encyclopedic reason to have such a list. Also, it's very difficult to find reliable secondary sources covering this stuff since the money used is usually such a background detail in these properties hat even "reliable" sources have no choice put to pull details out of their noses. Presumably when Palpatine took over and established the Galactic Empire, he had the old currency recalled and reissued to such an extent as was feasible, and kept doing so over subsequent decades, but maybe the "Republic credits" mentioned in the prequel trilogy are actually just the same thing as the "Imperial credits" mentioned in the original trilogy, and you'd be surprised how many fan sources are so convinced they have the answer that they take it as a given. The same is true for virtually every other entry that could be listed. I don't know a lot of fantasy or sci-fi works created by professional economists, but I imagine they'd be the only ones we could actually write anything about. Andrew's reliance above on click-baity top ten lists only highlights this problem, and I am legitimately surprised he could append a "keep" !vote to such a comment with a straight face. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 04:32, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just to give some more examples: for all the information given in Rick and Morty, those three currencies are all the same, or different units of the same currency equivalent to cents, dimes, nickles, dollars... and you will never find a reliable secondary source that elaborates on this. The "fictional currency" in Naruto is not "ryõ" but "ryō", a real historical Japanese currency that is incorporated into the fictional Naruto universe in the same way multiple other real-world elements are (it's one of "those" fictional settings where it's not entirely clear if it is set in a highly fictionalized version of the real world or in a purely fictional world with a large number of anachronistic elements that could only exist in the real world because of very specific historical circumstances). The "Lien" in RWBY, which was clearly heavily influenced by Naruto, might just be the Wu Chinese pronunciation of the same character. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 04:45, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Clearly a case of WP:INDISCRIMINATE, with the added issue of containing incorrect info (as Hijiri88 points out with ryō). Onel5969 ^{TT me} 12:52, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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