Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of fellows of IEEE Power Electronics Society

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The result was keep. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 02:04, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of fellows of IEEE Power Electronics Society

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Reviewed as a part of new article review/curation process. If this list were created, it would have hundreds on it, and thousands on the other division withing IEEE. Basically this just makes a whole article for one particular person getting it. North8000 (talk) 11:41, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 18:55, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Engineering-related deletion discussions. XOR'easter (talk) 19:00, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The criterion for inclusion is obvious, and the list makes good sense for navigational purposes (for example, it could provide chronological ordering and an at-a-glance view of what the awards were for, which a category can't). "Hundreds" of entries (only 221, it looks like) would not be too many for a manageable list. XOR'easter (talk) 19:04, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@XOR'easter: When I said that the actual list is hundreds, I didn't mean that it was too big / shouldn't be an article. I really meant that the article has not been created, this is just an Ali Emadi article.North8000 (talk) 21:09, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@North8000: see my response to Ajf773, below. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:28, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@North8000: It's not just an Ali Emadi article anymore. So far, I've filled in the Fellows elected in 2010 through 2013, as well as 2020, from here. Some of them already have articles, so the list has bluelinks. XOR'easter (talk) 22:30, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. These lists of society fellows serve an encyclopedic purpose beyond the corresponding categories (in this case Category:Fellow Members of the IEEE) by organizing the fellows by criteria such as election date or (in this case) by societies within the larger institute. This specific list should not be considered in isolation, but as a part of a broader list of all IEEE Fellows, split out in this way to make it more manageable. And as a subtopic both specifically called out by its society [1] and used as one of the main organizational criteria of the full IEEE fellows listing, I think it has enough independent significance for a separate sub-list. Given that the IEEE Fellow category as a whole has around 1800 articles, and this list represents a relatively narrow subset of that category, I don't think it is likely to be infeasibly large. (Here from a note on my talk page, but it was about deletion sorting, not canvassing.) —David Eppstein (talk) 20:19, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@David Eppstein: See my response above. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 21:10, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Just one name on a list does not need an article. There are a number of these articles that are indexed here: List of IEEE fellows. Perhaps they should all be merged into this one article? Ajf773 (talk) 20:58, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- That line of reasoning does not support the deletion outcome you are using it to support. It would support reorganizing the list of fellows into a single list of all IEEE Fellows, not blindly deleting parts of the list of all fellows merely because they are in component societies whose fellow members have not yet been collected up. Deletion is not for cleanup. And as there are already roughly 1800 articles on IEEE Fellows (in the corresponding category), the actual outcome supported by your argument, merger rather than deletion, would create an awkwardly large list. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:28, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see a few more names have been included since I commented here. Although now I see just three names of people with articles in a sea of names without links nor any references to support their notability. We are simply not a directory of non notable people or entities. Ajf773 (talk) 01:53, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The list of people passes WP:NACADEMIC's point 3. Update: Updated the reference link to point to all IEEE Power Electronics Society's fellows --Justanothersgwikieditor (talk) 01:56, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, everyone on this list is presumptively wiki-notable per WP:PROF#C3. XOR'easter (talk) 13:40, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. The list was created with intention to be similar to other existing lists such as List of fellows of IEEE Computational Intelligence Society, part of my de-orphaning article efforts. It should have been sufficiently expanded to its current state which I did not do. The list should be treated as one of the sub-lists of the main list, List of IEEE fellows. It can also be clearly seen that the list can be easily expanded which I admit I did not do it at point of creation. Also, this list is a sub list and not a catch all for IEEE fellows (which will make it very large) but specifically for the IEEE members of a particular society --Justanothersgwikieditor (talk) 01:48, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep / withdrawn It's a different article now. It had sat unedited since January 15th as just a "Ali Emadi is a Fellow" article and it took one day at AFD to do the trick. :-) Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 10:15, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and congrats to all who forced it to become real. Dicklyon (talk) 04:27, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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