Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of NFL draft broadcasters
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Consensus is clear. I would encourage the community to consider ways to expand articles such as these beyond being mere lists, to become somewhat more defensible articles on the concept itself (e.g., History of NFL draft broadcasts) incorporating the lists as sections. There are interesting historical items now basically hidden in the footnotes. BD2412 T 13:19, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list that is fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. As with sources per WP:RS besides those unsourced, consists of mainly WP:PRIMARY, YouTube posts, announcements, dead and redirected pages and some heavily focuses on the events itself; none of these doing anything to help this list to assert notability. Also, created by a banned sock. SpacedFarmer (talk) 17:19, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television, American football, Lists, and United States of America. SpacedFarmer (talk) 17:19, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- This has been previously nominated for deletion and kept here in May 2021 (I think that was one of the first AFDs I ever commented in!). There generally seems to be a good deal of coverage for all the broadcasters for each year of the NFL Draft. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:22, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
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Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent NASCAR fans
– Huh? I also don't think being created by a blocked sock 18 years ago should have any affect. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:23, 15 May 2024 (UTC) - Keep. There are a lot of sources mentioned in the prior AfD that still hold up to today, but I also found a couple that should suffice as well. [1], [2], [3]. The NFL draft is quite the spectacle for sports journalists so even reliable coverage for the WP:LISTCRUFT is going to meet WP:LISTN. Conyo14 (talk) 17:34, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - well-sourced and the draft announcers are a topic widely-covered in the media. --B (talk) 18:16, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per the sources found by Conyo14. Esolo5002 (talk) 18:38, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Press releases promoting televised draft coverage are not significant coverage independent of the subject. The rest are wP:NOTTVGUIDE listings of "the draft is on tv tonight, here's how to watch". This is not a topic that is independently notable of the NFL draft. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:25, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - Here are an an assortment of sources that discuss the NFL Draft (such as ratings and reviews of ESPN and NFL Network's respective coverage) after the fact: NFL Network 2024 NFL Draft Review – League network owns Michael Penix Jr. shocker, ESPN 2024 NFL Draft review – Molly McGrath, Adam Schefter shine on night one BornonJune8 (talk) 06:30, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Topic meets the WP:NLIST with sources such as [[4]] and [[5]] just for starters. Let'srun (talk) 01:52, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep This event has become big enough in its own right to merit such a list. Go4thProsper (talk) 18:32, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - The draft is actually getting to be bigger than the Superbowl in terms of attendance. True fact. Nominator has the wrong sport, this is NFL, not NASCAR. I won't repeat the sourcing mentions made in the Snow Keep above. Carrite (talk) 02:39, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Per NLIST and all of the above. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:55, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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