Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Australian supercentenarians (2nd nomination)

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The result was merge to List of supercentenarians by continent. (non-admin closure) wumbolo ^^^ 16:33, 10 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of Australian supercentenarians

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Redundant to List of supercentenarians by continent#Supercentenarians in Oceania. Which contains substantially the same content. Any minor details not in the main article can be added from this one. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 15:31, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per nom. I shudder at all the "but Australia is the most super-duper important bit of Oceania!" arguments in the last AfD. The redirect target list is 80% Australians anyway, I suspect they are in no immediate danger of disappearing from view in there. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 16:24, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 18:18, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 18:19, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 18:19, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I don't yet have an opinion on Keep or Merge, but I do note that this Australian-only list gives the Australian states in which each person was born and died (if that was in Australia). That is useful information, which is not in the Oceania table. It could perhaps be added there, but I'm not sure how that would work for New Zealand and New Caledonia. Given the nature of the comments in the previous AfD discussion, perhaps a merger of countries into continents could be done for another region first, which would remove that argument against merging this with the Oceanian list? RebeccaGreen (talk) 20:13, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes the states would be included in the main list. All the continent list articles and a half dozen or more country articles have already been merged into List of supercentenarians by continent, only a few European countries, Japan, and North America are left to do and will be completed as soon as the tables are updated. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 20:21, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete/redirect repetition of these tables on various pages helps no one. Happy to see so much progress on merging them together. Let's keep on going that direction. Legacypac (talk) 01:59, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete/merge/redirect to Oceania list or whatever. Repeating what I said in the prior nomination: All these scattered, overlapping slices and dices by country, region, etc. have no advantage over a small set of larger lists (pseudo-continental), which are easily sorted and searched on e.g. country. And the scattered lists have the disadvantage of maintenance headaches. E Eng 02:56, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect/Merge to the continent article. Fully redundant given all these names are easily covered there. CommanderLinx (talk) 11:19, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete/redirect to the Oceania list. There is no benefit having two near identical lists of the same information. It's just a maintenance nightmare, and larger more comprehensive lists are easily sorted and searched by individual readers as they choose. I also would support further redirects or merges of more country lists for the same reasons. Newshunter12 (talk) 12:18, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to List of supercentenarians by continent taking care to WP:PRESERVE the state information. Creating a new column for this might be a pain, but a solution using a format like Country/State such as "Australia/Victoria" would work with exisiting columns (Australia first for sorting reasons). This format change is essential to do in any case if North America is ever to be incorporated as well. It would also be nice for other countries – I'm sure Scottish readers, for instance, would like to be able to sort Scotland out of the United Kingdom entries. SpinningSpark 12:23, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
speedy keep If countries such as Norway and Ireland have lists which contain less names than Australia are allowed to stay then why is Australia not allowed to have its own Wikipedia entry? I'd vote on deleting the Oceania list as it is not a continent Crveni5 (talk)

The Oceania list article is already gone, merged to List of supercentenarians by continent, as all other country specific lists on this subject soon will be or already have. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 00:00, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and WP:WAX are not valid arguments for keeping this article. CommanderLinx (talk) 00:16, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would also add that a speedy keep vote is disingenuous. You are free to have and share a keep opinion, but six other people already voted to either delete, redirect, or merge this article, so it was never going to be speedily kept. That was just to fluff up your own minority opinion, not make a substantive addition to this conversation. Newshunter12 (talk) 01:05, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I reject your allegation that my comment was dishonest. What I wrote is what I believe therefore to imply that I am being dishonest is an attack upon my integrity. However this does not surprise me as you have a history of personal attacks so this is more of the same from you. I am entitled to my opinion like everybody else who uses and edits Wikipedia articles. Crveni5 (talk)

You know what you did (packaging your vote as speedy keep, not the content of the vote) was a disingenuous attempt to save the article by demending the article be kept at once, regardless of everyone else's stated opinions, so don't pretend your a victim or project your insincerity onto me and claim I'm a bully. Newshunter12 (talk) 07:48, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to by "continent". Redundant duplicated material. Aoziwe (talk) 12:11, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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