Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liechtenstein women's national football team

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The result was keep. As Women's football in Liechtenstein. Sandstein 12:15, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Liechtenstein women's national football team

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The article clearly states there's no team and hardly any plans to create one. WikiArticleEditor (talk) 12:33, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Happy New Year!!! Babymissfortune 12:37, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 12:59, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - doesn't exist. GiantSnowman 13:27, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete – doesn't exist, not enough meaningful content to merge to Football in Liechtenstein. PriceDL (talk) 13:49, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: As the article states, the national federation is working to develop a team, and the current article is the best holding spot for the four different youth women's national teams who have played friendlies, international tournaments or are scheduled to play. "not enough meaningful content" is not a valid reason to delete. That is an issue of "article needs improvement and to be expanded." If "not enough meaningful content" a reason people want to have for deletion, this rational should be put forward in a en.wp wide RfC given this would pretty much result in the removal of almost all stubs. --LauraHale (talk) 19:32, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • @LauraHale: I said delete because it's not notable because it doesn't exist, not because it doesn't include enough meaningful content. The lack of content is why I'm not suggesting it not be merged to Football in Liechtenstein, which is probably the most sensible place for information on attempts to develop a women's team to exist. PriceDL (talk) 21:55, 1 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • DeleteRedirect - the simple fact is that this team doesn't exist, no senior women's international team from Liechtenstein has ever played any sort of formal match, they are now mentioned at Football in Liechtenstein, so a redirect there would probably seem best as a plausible search term. However:
  1. No reason why junior teams shouldn't have their own article, especially those that have played competitive matches, so not sure why this is being used as a holding pen. I think at this stage the U-16 team is the same as the U-17 team given when they both competed, but I see no reason not to have Liechtenstein women's national under-17 football team and Liechtenstein women's national under-19 football team, as viable standalone articles.
  2. The Background and Development section should be moved to Football in Liechtenstein as well sourced prose, but nonetheless prose that is more closely related to the women's game in Liechtenstein as a sport rather than the national team specifically. I will look to do this shortly. Fenix down (talk) 11:17, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I have now moved relevant sourced prose to Football in Liechtenstein where I think it is more relevant and where it is appropriate that content discussing a team which does not exist should be held. Fenix down (talk) 11:47, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Dr. Blofeld: @Megalibrarygirl:, do we really need to split Football in Liechtenstein at this point in time? Not really sure there is sufficient content in that article to warrant one article on men's football and one article on women's football. Fenix down (talk) 09:32, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There's enough content to justify it's own article without bloating the other but doesn't really matter that much. Why not? We're not paper.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:23, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It's just not really how things are done. There are only a couple of articles specifically on women's football in individual countries, the sport is normally documented without the need to split by gender. Here we seem to want to split a four paragraph article into a couple of two paragraph articles. Not saying that there won't be a need in the future, but just don't see the need here now. More importantly, such a split actually serves to make it more difficult for readers to find out about women's football in Liechtenstein. As Template:Football in Europe templates shows, the conventional heading is simply "Football in ...". Fenix down (talk) 12:38, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There's only one editor I know who was heavily into Russian topics and a curious interest in Bhutan and that was Russavia. It's highly unusual for an editor to have a major interest in both. Just saying. ;-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:28, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if that's the case, I suppose the redirect from the original title should be deleted. The very fact that Liechtenstein is on the list of women's national association football teams seems misleading. It also seems the whole list should be revised. Turkmenistan is the first link I clicked on... WikiArticleEditor (talk) 16:57, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Kepp with new name. As long as there is no widely accepted national team, the article should be presented in more general terms. It certainly contains a lot of useful information and is well sourced.--Ipigott (talk) 10:28, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and rename per Megalibrarygirl, as there is apparently no recognized national team. The topic of Women's football in lichtenstein certainly seems notable, however. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:30, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and rename/merge per recommendation of Megalibrarygirl. Hmlarson (talk) 21:49, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and rename as Women's football in Liechtenstein, per similar articles for other European countries. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 08:50, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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