Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Levi C. Maaia

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The result was delete. Given that all of the Keep voters (and one Delete voter) are sockpuppets, I would not be surprised to see this article recreated in the future. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:35, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Levi C. Maaia

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No evidence of notability. Most sources are unreliable, primary, or not independent. There don't seem to be any good sources about him. Fram (talk) 12:17, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Businesspeople, and Rhode Island. [User:Fram|Fram-en] (talk) 12:17, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have updated the article with independent sources and removed unreliable and not independent sources. I have included information about his film awards as well as congressional testimony to support his notability [User:Cinecubano12381|Cinecubano12381-en] (talk) 20:39, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete In my opinion, this article would be better to be nominated for speedy deletion. The sources of the article are deeply awful! For example, the first reference is IMDB, in second one he only is mentioned at the end article and other sources are unreliable. [User:Alimovvarsu|Alimovvarsu-en] (talk) 20:24, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'd disagree that the sources are awful. The first link is to an IMDB awards listing page which is backed up by source 23 from the festival itself. The second source is a Boston Globe op-ed written by the subject (which is why he is mentioned at the end author's bio). [User:Mar3ini|Mar3ini-en] (talk) 05:52, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The article cites a wide variety of local and regional news sources (e.g. The Boston Globe, East Bay Newspapers/EastBayRI.com, East Providence Reporter/reportertoday.com, Santa Barbara Independent) as well as a few well regarded TV and business trade publications (TVTechnology, Businesswire, Providence Business News). There are also a couple primary sources but most all of those are backed up by citations to news coverage and other independent sources. It seems that there is some noteworthiness; additional citations would further improve the article. [User:Mar3ini|Mar3ini-en] (talk) 06:12, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Since initial publication, the article has been modified to remove unreliable and, where possible, primary sources that did not have independent sources providing additional verification. Several well-respected news sources were also added, particularly regional sources. Overall, I believe that these modifications, changes and additions demonstrate a person of notability in their geographic region, fields of study and industry.[User:Cinecubano12381|Cinecubano12381-en] (talk) 22:12, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Still don't see which sources are supposed to give notability. The Boston Globe, cited by Mar3ini in their "keep", is a letter to the newspaper by Maaia, not an article about Maaia. Businesswire, also cited by Mar3ini, is a press release publisher, not an independent source. The EastBayRI source[1] doesn't even mention Levi. The Santa Barbara Independent source is a column[2]. Something like TVTechnology is just a very passing mention.

Let's try WP:THREE: what are the 3 best sources you have to establish notability for Maaia? Fram (talk) 09:56, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

These four sources should sufficiently establish the subject's notability in the sphere of executive leadership in education and technology to a level that exceeds the current threshold in many other published articles about notable people in media and education.

This citation establishes that the subject was covered as a notable businessperson early in his career in telecommunications and broadcasting.

Nesi, Ted (2009-08-19). "Five Questions With: Levi C. Maaia". Providence Business News. Retrieved 2022-11-12.

[3]https://pbn.com/five-questions-with-levi-c-maaia44311/

This citation is a critical review of the subject's radio program.

Jun 01, Colin Marshall Tue; 2010 | 6:00am (2010-06-01). "Morning Radio, but Interesting". The Santa Barbara Independent. Retrieved 2022-11-10.

[4]https://www.independent.com/2010/06/01/morning-radio-but-interesting/

This citation further establishes the subject's notability in telecommunications and education when public radio news covered his appointment to a NASA program committee.

"South Coast Man Helps With Education Efforts Linked To International Space Station". KCLU. 2017-05-30. Retrieved 2022-11-12.

[5]https://www.kclu.org/local-news/2017-05-30/south-coast-man-helps-with-education-efforts-linked-to-international-space-station

This citation establishes the subject's notability as an award-winning filmmaker in the Los Angeles Independent Film Festival.

"Alumnus Levi Maaia directs award-winning film "Pathways to Invention" | The Gevirtz School (GGSE) - UC Santa Barbara". education.ucsb.edu. Retrieved 2022-11-12.

[6]https://education.ucsb.edu/news/2022/alumnus-levi-maaia-directs-award-winning-film-%E2%80%9Cpathways-invention%E2%80%9D Cinecubano12381 (talk) 01:35, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. The University one is not independent, an institution writing about their alumni is a related source. The Independent.com source is a column, again not a source accepted to establish notability. Which leaves us with a very short article from a local radio station, and the Providence Business News. Not really convincing to me, others may disagree of course. Fram (talk) 08:47, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, AmirŞah 16:23, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as explained above, the sources are pretty much useless. I don't see much more we can use for sourcing. Socks also tell me this isn't notable. If you have to create a fake account to support your case, it likely isn't notable (or it would stand by itself). Oaktree b (talk) 17:44, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Google hits are straight into his social media channels, something called flyways then a podcast. He was appointed to city council, then it peters off to nothing. Nowhere near GNG. Oaktree b (talk) 19:34, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: the two keep votes so far have been blocked as sockpuppets and very likely have a major WP:COI with the article subject. Fram (talk) 16:43, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A Delete opinion was also from a sockpuppet. And none of them seemed to know how to sign their comments. Maybe this AFD should be run a second time. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:34, 19 November 2022 (UTC)×××[reply]

FYI, the relist was from another sock. Girth Summit _(blether) 12:08, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete because of a lack of independent sources. I was hopeful about The Reporter Today link but it allows you to post your own articles and photos and there is no independent by-line on the article. Mostly what we have is articles by him, and ones coming directly from his employers. Lamona (talk) 16:41, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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