Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Letter Zyu

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. With all respect, I must discredit all the "delete" arguments which assume Russian neologisms are inherently unworthy for inclusion on the English Wikipedia (see WP:Systematic bias#The nature of Wikipedia's bias), and those based on the poor prose quality of the article (because AfD is not cleanup). This leaves us with the notability arguments which all lean towards a "keep" outcome. Deryck C. 00:18, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Letter Zyu

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Pretty much entirely unintelligible, at best it seems to be a random assortment of facts related to a russian phrase Jac16888 Talk 12:21, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. There are authoritative sources in the ru:Буква зю. Article Letter Zyu by 90% is based on articles in scientific journal: http://elibrary.ru/item.asp?id=17316301 - Candidate of Sciences of Philology А. V. Zelenin (January 2005). "article "Letter Zyu"". «Russian speech (journal Russian Academy of Sciences)»: 79–83. {{cite journal}}: External link in |journal= (help). There are authoritative sources the remaining 10% in the ru:Буква зю. Google Akademik. Буква зю. In the Russian Wikipedia: article was restored in the Russian Wikipedia and visited article on the main page Russian Wikipedia Vyacheslav84 (talk) 13:11, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Even if there are legitimate sources for this topic, this article has not been translated from Russian into English well enough for English-speaking people to understand. And it seems possible to me that this subject could be a phrase which is only meaningful in the Russian language and thus should be covered in English only by Wiktionary -- not by the English Wikipedia. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 21:07, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:02, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:03, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mediran (t • c) 02:16, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • The fact that other stuff exists does not prove that this article ought to exist. Looking at the first two items in Category:Russian words and phrases, for example, afghanka is an article of clothing, and avoska is a type of bag. These are physical objects which can be, and have been, adequately explained in English without the reader needing to know Russian. Phil Bridger, below, says that the article's comprehensibility should be addressed by editing, not deletion. Maybe so, but right now this article is more puzzling than informative. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:32, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comprehensibility is an issue that should be addressed by editing, not deletion, and a topic being inherently part of a foreign language has no bearing on its suitability for an encyclopedia of the whole world that happens to be written in English. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:06, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) - so accurate. Vyacheslav84 (talk) 12:07, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as unintelligible ("a relatively new idiom, which becomes in the evolution of new values"). No opinion about whether the topic is notable, but we'd need to be able to understand the article in order to be able to ascertain that.  Sandstein  08:52, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, per WP:NEO. Seems to be a Russian neologism, not used in English. Miniapolis 15:14, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep this is a bit of a ridiculous nomination; we might as well try and delete Mana or any of the other litany of words that are significantly notable in other cultural concepts. If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article - it's notable. I would argue this nomination is really an example of En:wiki systemic bias. Wikipedia is for expanding our horizons guys, not restricting them, and just because it's Russian doesn't mean it's not important, though it probably needs cleanup. Would we delete Textspeak? Buckshot06 (talk) 23:23, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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