Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/La Fuerza

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

La Fuerza

The result was kept. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) (CC) Tbhotch^™ 20:12, 21 January 2022 (UTC) [reply]

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The page was created by Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Zhmailik, a user known for creating blatant hoaxes (just by skimming this, ""Pero Me Acuerdo de Ti" (2022) [with Ariana Grande]" is one clear example of this user gaming with Wikipedia to satisfy their hoaxes). The article already is tagged as potentially not-notable. If this is kept, however, it must be verified. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 23:15, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 23:15, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• The closing admin should also consider to delete the following pages per WP:G5 and/or WP:G3:

• Draft:Santo (Christina Aguilera song)
• La Fuerza (De Mi Corazón)
• Lolita (Christina Aguilera song)
• Draft:Iffy (Chris Brown song) (CC) Tbhotch^™ 23:19, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: for now I'll say that this EP isn't a hoax [1] and is expected to be released on January 28. Arguably this article might be slightly WP:TOOSOON, but there are definitely sources confirming its imminent release, and by the time this AfD has run its course, it may be notable anyway. Richard3120 (talk) 00:56, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: I agree that it is MUCH too soon; perhaps keeping it as a draft UNTIL we have clearer sources + definite release dates. Maxwell King¹²³³²¹ 05:08, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: The album will be released in January, as confirmed by major publications (Billboard, Portal Pop Line, Daily Mail). It should be kept. AngelOfDestiny (talk) 07:07, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy delete under G5, created by a block-evading sockpuppet. --Yamla (talk) 11:00, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: i think we can all agree that the ep itself is definitely not a hoax seeing as it's not only confirmed in interviews but also on christina aguilera's website at the time of writing this. however, we don't have a release date announced currently and no other songs beside the singles have been confirmed so i agree that it might be too soon. however, completely deleting doesn't really sound smart because the release seems to be close. i think it should be kept as a draft. i've tried to find as much information about this topic as possible, but seeing as christina announced the ep quietly through interviews instead of big platforms like her social media not many publications spoke about it. there's more articles about her recent instagram post than the upcoming ep. as for the pages for the song santo and lolita, seeing as santo is not released yet, there's not much information that one single song can have prior to its release, whereas lolita is a demo that leaked and it is not at all confirmed that it'll be on the album. in fact it's highly unlikely that it will, because christina confirmed the album will be in spanish and lolita contains english lyrics. even if it does end up on the album, there shouldn't be a page for a song from an album that is not confirmed yet, let alone released. Leaton101 — Preceding undated comment added 12:01, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Original logic for the AFD is the article was created as a hoax by a problem editor. As noted by editors above, this is incorrect - as there is RS to substantiate that it exists. As noted, its not releases as yet, but will be, so it may as well stay up at this point, rather than be deleted and re-created in a month (or whatver time frame?). Deathlibrarian (talk) 05:37, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• I didn't say the article is a hoax. I said the article was created by someone who creates hoaxes. If the content is to be kept, the article must be verified to be true. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 05:55, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Snow Keep - really surprised at the rational for deletion from such an experienced editor. The project is legitimate and has received coverage in lots of reliable sources. The quality of the editing is questionable given the main contributor was a sock-puppet but there is ample coverage from reliable and independent sources. The article is already tagged for clean-up etc, which was more than adequate for tidying up the article. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 11:55, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - It's true that the article's creator is suspicious and he/she may have jumped the gun on creating the article too early. But the album is for real and its upcoming release has been verified by Billboard (see the current footnote #15). There is no problem with verification. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:04, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep --Aaron106 (talk) 21:26, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep most of the article as the EP has been verified by Billboard, but delete Lolita (Christina Aguilera song) as I do not see a song with this title on the announced track list. Aoba47 (talk) 22:08, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - The album seems to be real and Santo is available now, it is also suggestable to have all EPs for her 9th album inside one article, but it would be too soon for that. But strong keep for this article at this moment. Luke Kern Choi 5 (talk) 03:49, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - This is an official EP by Christina Aguilera.^[1][2][3] Bionic (talk) 15:32, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Please close this discussion consensus has been reached, that's it a official EP. People are going to the La Fuerza page now on the day of it's release and seeing a banner on top. --Aaron106 (talk) 16:41, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.