Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kirklees, Calderdale

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:41, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kirklees, Calderdale

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I'm unsure what do do with this article. There doesn't appear to be sufficient evidence there ever was a village by the name Kirklees even though A Vision of Britain says it was a village in Clifton chapelry the map link shows the location actually to be Castle Hill south of Huddersfield rather than the location of the priory. There was a DMV at the location of the priory but it isn't specified as being named "Kirklees" in contract to say Gilby. There is discussion on merging at Talk:Kirklees Priory#Proposed merge of Kirklees, Calderdale into Kirklees Priory after Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 25#Kirklees, Kirklees. Given the lack of useful history the article has and the fact the title may cause more confusion than what its worth it may just be better to just delete this article and the Kirklees, Kirklees redirect. On the other hand it may be useful to the small number of people who know the priory site is in Calderdale. If there is more evidence that a village by this name ever existed then I'd reconsider deleting/merging this but there doesn't appear to be much and maybe mainly confusion. Redirecting to Kirklees Priory (where most of the content of the article already is) or Kirklees Hall may make sense if we decide we should merge but not delete. @Peter James, Uanfala, A7V2, and Jay: who participated in the RFD. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:00, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and England. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:10, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have just updated the merge discussion after comparing the two articles. I'm fine with deletion too. Jay 💬 18:06, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Kirklees, Kirklees, so good they named it twice, said nobody. This is a confusing situation made even more so by the presence of the modern district, which makes it particularly challenging to research whether this settlement ever existed. The content is duplicated in Kirklees Priory and I can't see a reason for this poorly-sourced article to remain. Flip Format (talk) 18:10, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If the AFD is closed as delete then the Kirklees, Kirklees redirect will automatically be deleted under G8. If its closed as redirect/merge then I'd consider sending it to RFD again in another few months as the risk of confusion would be higher if the locality article doesn't exist anymore as a separate article and the fact it never contained any useful content. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:42, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If this AFD is closed as delete then I guess most of the links can be pointed to the priory and perhaps the hatnote at Kirklees can be updated to go to the priory. There is a settlement called Kirklees in Greater Manchester but that doesn't have an article here yet. Both 19th century maps of the coordinates given at VOB and at the actual location do not show anywhere called just "Kirklees" but interestingly both locations are near a Castle Hill. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:37, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Also note Commons:Commons:Categories for discussion/2012/02/Category:Kirklees, West Yorkshire which was closed in 2016 with consensus to move to "Kirklees, Calderdale" but it might also be worth starting another CFD to see if it should be deleted as well. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:37, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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