Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/KRKW-LP

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The result was keep. Ad Orientem (talk) 00:07, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

KRKW-LP

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Non-notable radio station. None of the sources even hint towards it meeting the requirements, and a search for sources gives only primary results and its Wikipedia entry. -- NoCOBOL (talk) 23:56, 3 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of News media-related deletion discussions. Ruyaba (talk) 00:03, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Ruyaba (talk) 00:03, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The article is quite rough, but the station meets WP:BROADCAST easily since a station serving a Hawaiian island basically has the same reach there as a full-power one; the circumstances justify as such. Needs cleanup for sure, though. Nate • (chatter) 02:03, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry, I think I am missing something; I don't see anything about reach presuming notability - the closest I can find is audience size, of which I don't believe reach can be a proxy for. If it is not audience size you are discussing can you point me in the right direction?

In any case, that is presumed notability; they serve to supplement the primary requirements by providing a general rule of thumb, but they do not replace them - indeed, the primary explicitly states that radio stations sourced only by FCC documents only get a temporary pass of notability requirements to allow acceptable sources to be found, but they do not get a permanent pass. -- NoCOBOL (talk) 08:27, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Just to be clear, our notability criteria for radio stations have nothing to do with transmission power or size of audience — we don't impose arbitrary numerical cutoffs on our notability criteria. Rather, what we require is (a) an FCC license, (b) that the station is actually operational and not just a paper license, (c) that the station originates at least some of its own programming rather than serving purely as a relay of programming produced by a parent service, and (d) all four of those facts are verifiable in sources independent of the station itself. Yes, D was the problem here — but by trying "Waimea Baptist Church radio station" as an alternate search term instead of the call sign, I was able to find at least one real media source that can be added. Radio stations don't need their media coverage to nationalize, because very few radio stations could ever actually clear that bar at all — they just need media coverage to not be completely nonexistent, and I've found some. There was some silly and unnecessary content here (we don't care about its ITU emission type code or the accreditations of its engineer) and too many of the FCC links were either deadlinked or irrelevant to this station (e.g. verifying a stray fact about FCC policy but not actually containing one word about this station itself), but I've cleaned that up in the process of adding the new source. Bearcat (talk) 19:41, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the on-point arguments made above. They seem to cover all the bases. 24.84.14.158 (talk) 23:09, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.