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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. MBisanz talk 00:11, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
AfDs for this article:
- Johnny Zhivago (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Some of the People, All of the Time (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - (View log · Stats)
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Band that appears not to be sufficiently notable to warrant an article. Unsourced. No coverage found. Their one album release didn't appear to receive much/any coverage. There was an ancient VfD for this article but at that time the subject was the fictional musician from A Clockwork Orange. The existence of this article appears to be being used as partial justification for articles on the band members and their subsequent bands. Michig (talk) 10:14, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: Not to be confused with the Canadian band from the 1980s or the later electronica artist. --Michig (talk) 10:17, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Also including the album in this AfD:
- Johnny Zhivago (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Some of the People, All of the Time (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
--Michig (talk) 10:23, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- OPPOSE -- if we're going to declare that a punk band that received decent press, reviews, and toured Europe isn't notable because it's been gone for 10 years, we might as well get rid of Frank Sinatra since he hasn't come up with anything new since 1998, or Glenn Miller since 1944, or the Ink Spots, or Mario Lanza. There are a ton of bands and musicians that aren't "notable" that have articles--and some are good articles (Krista Branch, for instance). This band actually was notable when it was around. While we're at it we might as well delete articles on the Roman Empire and Jesus Christ since they haven't done anything for us lately--thus not notable. Sure, the article sucks and offers little, but that's a lack of any work on it (and a call for some punk fan to add something)--not a sign of notability or lack thereof. --ColonelHenry (talk) 21:32, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- What press and reviews? --Michig (talk) 06:33, 29 October 2012 (UTC) Krista Branch is notable because she has received plenty of coverage in reliable sources, which is one of our criteria for being notable. The fact that this band has been gone for 10 years is irrelevant - I brought it here because it appears not to come close to meeting any of the criteria set out at WP:BAND and the article completely fails our verifiability policy. --Michig (talk) 17:05, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:54, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:54, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 16:47, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Can't find any trace of the supposed decent press and reviews mentioned by ColonelHenry. A search yielded no notable sources and the article itself doesn't include any. Delete per WP:N. Vacation9 (talk) 18:38, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 04:21, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - lack of any proof this band is notable. I've added their sole album into this AfD as someone had already tagged it as being part of the AfD without actually linking it - and I agree that it also should be deleted. Lukeno94 (talk) 10:24, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment.I am uncertain whether it is either reliable or substantial, but I found this Greek-language page with a brief comment on the band: [1]. Sourcing is made more difficult by the presence of an apparently unrelated Canadian band with the same name (in addition, of course, to the fictional one). Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 15:59, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Probably not a reliable source, and certainly not significant coverage. --Michig (talk) 17:05, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, then. Further searching on the album and song titles didn't get me anything that the band-name search missed. Thanks for taking a look at that one page; I didn't have much hopes for it, but figured that I should pass it along for others to review, as it was literally Greek to me. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 17:18, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.