Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Doda
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Kept and closed per WP:SNOW. Close is procedural as there is no way a sensible discussion can be had on 43 topics. Bundling 2-maybe 6 related topics is workable, 43 cannot be. (non-admin closure) John from Idegon (talk) 11:28, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
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Fails GNG and NSCHOOL. A few such schools have been redirected to List of Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalayas in past per AfD discussions. I had redirected this page a few days back, and a fellow editor reverted my edit. Comments please. ─ The Aafī (talk) 06:15, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. ─ The Aafī (talk) 06:15, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. ─ The Aafī (talk) 06:15, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:46, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
Also nominating,
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Bagudi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Belpada (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Mundali (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Narla (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Rayagada (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Chamba (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Kinnaur (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Kullu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Mandi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Kangra (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Una (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Sirmaur (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Solan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Theog (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Patiala (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Middle Andaman (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Car Nicobar (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, South Andaman (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Prakasam (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Veleru (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. ─ The Aafī (talk) 12:14, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Also,
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Kothali (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Gajanur (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Kodagu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Korlahalli (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Raichur (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Panchavati (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Alappuzha (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Chendayadu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Idukki (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Kottayam (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Kozhikode (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Malappuram (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Palakkad (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Thiruvananthapuram (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Thrissur (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Wayanad (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Minicoy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Karaikal (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Mahe (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Puducherry (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Yanam (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Nizamsagar (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Comment Ummm that’s really a lot of redirects. Is the nominator saying they have done a WP:BEFORE on each individual article to establish that not a single one of them is independently notable for any reason? In fact unless we’re seriously looking to delete all of these then possibly Redirects for discussion is a more appropriate forum. Mccapra (talk) 13:08, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Mccapra, I couldn't find anything so far. If there is anything other editors can find out, that individual school article may be dropped out. ─ The Aafī (talk) 13:13, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- I am not proposing that these school articles be deleted, rather redirected to List of Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalayas, or if another alternate is available. Since, these aren't redirects yet, RfD is not an appropriate forum? ─ The Aafī (talk) 13:18, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Mccapra, I couldn't find anything so far. If there is anything other editors can find out, that individual school article may be dropped out. ─ The Aafī (talk) 13:13, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Yes you're right. Mccapra (talk) 14:41, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep You are mistaken. You proposed this as an AFD. If you want them redirected, you need another forum and procedure. No pretended compliance with WP:Before. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:34, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- User:7&6=thirteen, These are existing as articles are fine to be discussed here, as RfD or any other forum is not explicitly for discussion of articles, rather that's for discussing redirects. Moreover, I'm a former student of one of such schools, and having done BEFORE, I can certainly say these schools do not individually meet GNG or NSCHOOL, but what meets GNG is Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya as whole and these individual articles may be redirected there or some of there information may be merged in the List article. Hope I'm clear. ─ The Aafī (talk) 11:38, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep You are mistaken. You proposed this as an AFD. If you want them redirected, you need another forum and procedure. No pretended compliance with WP:Before. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:34, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Yes you're right. Mccapra (talk) 14:41, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep (procedural), the nominator has got to be joking! 40+ articles for deletion!? lets say 5mins for a pathetically shallow bit of research on each so 3 hours plus, way too many for a bundle, also nominator states they did carry out wp:before, really? i just randomly picked an article: Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Minicoy, not only nothing on its talkpage from the nominator about their concerns or a message on relevant wikiproject talkpages (not necessarily required prior to nomination but given the nom's concerns about this and the large no. of similar articles.....), but no discussion raised or even a basic notification to the article creator (hi Jazze7:)), again not compulsory (what is in WP:)) but given that most/all? of these were created by them..... Coolabahapple (talk) 01:37, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- Coolabahapple, Dear friend, this is how I nominated all the articles here Wikipedia:BUNDLE and there would be notification on the talk page of creator of Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Doda – I did what is mentioned in the WP:Bundle, and for WP:BEFORE, I'm again saying that I did it, and not necessarily one does it on the day of nomination. Schools are not inherently notable. They need to pass the GNG. References in most of these articles comes for primary sources and I couldn't find any. Even if this AfD is closed keep per you precedural note, these articles will get deleted failing GNG and NSCHOOL guidelines. Thanks – ─ The Aafī (talk) 03:32, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- I tried again searching for the information about one of these schools, Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Belpada but I didn't get any reliable or significant details besides those available on the primary websites. Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya as a whole is notable, and these schools are not inherently notable. This is what I say and I'm leaving this discussion, and leaving the matter on other editors per WP:COAL. ─ The Aafī (talk) 03:48, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- Coolabahapple, Dear friend, this is how I nominated all the articles here Wikipedia:BUNDLE and there would be notification on the talk page of creator of Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, Doda – I did what is mentioned in the WP:Bundle, and for WP:BEFORE, I'm again saying that I did it, and not necessarily one does it on the day of nomination. Schools are not inherently notable. They need to pass the GNG. References in most of these articles comes for primary sources and I couldn't find any. Even if this AfD is closed keep per you precedural note, these articles will get deleted failing GNG and NSCHOOL guidelines. Thanks – ─ The Aafī (talk) 03:32, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- thanks for your explanations, my "keep" stays, though. Coolabahapple (talk) 10:22, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep on procedural grounds some of these schools may be notable for some reason, others not - they can't be bundled together like this. Deathlibrarian (talk) 06:26, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- Procedural keep While schools have to pass GNG, its difficult for participants to verify each one of them. No prejudice against nominating them individually. --Ab207 (talk) 16:05, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- Procedural keep, with no prejudice against individual renomination. Just too many at one time here. The relative merits of each will need to be discussed in smaller batches. Hog Farm Bacon 17:10, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- Speedy keep WP:SKCRIT no policy or guideline based deletion rationale has been advanced. Lightburst (talk) 22:33, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep There seems to be a few thousand Indian school articles in English Wikipedia, signalling out every article of a chain of schools as non-notable without doing proper due diligence is the not proper way. Bring over article one by one or in smaller batches for everyone's convenience or start a RfC to deal with the larger issue of high school notability in India. Roller26 (talk) 05:12, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Since a number of JNV school articles have been created by myself, I can say that each one of these schools are unique and notable. This is a prestigeous project of Govt. of India to provide and fund one such model school to each district in India which is in progress. To put in perspective the Districts of India, their population generally ranges from 500,000 to 2 million. The importance given to these schools are such that they are directly chaired and monitored by District Magistrate/commissioner who is the administritave head of the entire district. About relying on sources closely related to schools, they come into news only for a mishap etc. which is extremely rare. Indeed there is always scope to improve these articles like all other articles on Wikipedia. -Jazze7 (talk) 08:46, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
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