Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jason Njoku
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. No prejudice towards re-nominating if anyone wants to have another run at this. Daniel (talk) 04:20, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
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Promotional and poorly sourced article about a non-notable businessman. Initially created by an account whose only other contribution is an article about his company, suggesting WP:UPE. Although WP:BOMBARDed with sources, the coverage is of iROKO and not of him, except in a couple cases where it's insubstantive profiles or non-independent interviews. FalconK (talk) 00:19, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. FalconK (talk) 00:19, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. FalconK (talk) 00:19, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Keep accepted at AFC by Sulfurboy, with possible notability-establishing sources. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 01:25, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Keep I'm away due to work so I'm going to have to be brief and might not have time to respond to anything. This feels more like an indictment on the page creators/editors instead of an on point address of whether or not the subject is notable. A very short and cursory google search confirms coverage of the subject, albeit one must sift out the large PR rocks. I'd suggest to nom to correct the issue either via maintenance tags, WP:ANI or WP:COIN. AfD is not a catch-all for shit pages. Cheers Sulfurboy (talk) 01:35, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Any chance you could link a few? I also did such a search and I didn't come across anything. I do this quite a lot and when I find sources I do indeed tag the article or improve it myself; I'm not trying to use this venue to force page improvement. I really don't think he meets any of our notability guidelines. FalconK (talk) 01:52, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- Falcon Kirtaran, Seriously dude? This took all of five minutes...https://www.newsweek.com/nollywood-jason-njoku-iroko-525837https://thenationonlineng.net/jason-njoku-nbc-boss-disagree-on-nbc-code/https://www.cnn.com/2012/07/04/business/jason-njoku-iroko-nigeria/index.htmlhttps://www.modernghana.com/nollywood/34163/iroko-tv-boss-jason-njoku-caught-in-dubai-while.htmlhttps://www.pulse.ng/news/irokotvs-jason-njoku-i-feel-no-connection-with-nigeria/hmxzhj8I'd highly advise checking out WP:BEFORE, especially if you do this "quite a lot" Sulfurboy (talk) 15:41, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- Let's go through these. It doesn't seem to me to be so clear cut. FalconK (talk) 23:43, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- Falcon Kirtaran, I'd suggest a revisit of WP:SIGCOV. Starting with newsweek, even if I agreed that the article isn't about him, anyone can conclude that coverage of him is beyond a "trivial mention". The first two paragraphs (164 words) is directly about the subject and not dependent on quotes from the subject.The nation: WP:SIGCOV is not dependent on "shortness" of an article, but instead whether or not it's a trivial mention. Considering the article is only about the subject, it's not trivial.The cnn article has a 200 word lead that is not dependent on the interview with the subject.MG article, I don't even know what nonsense you're talking about with tabloid coverage and what that has to do with notability.Pulse substantiates coverage, albeit cannot be used as an independent source.This subject has coverage from CNN, Newsweek and the leading newspaper and Nigeria and you're seriously here trying to argue he's not notable? This is starting to feel as if you have some vendetta towards the subject or something and feels shady. Sulfurboy (talk) 02:54, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
- I really don't. Being quoted in the press doesn't make a person notable, though. I don't think we're going to come to an agreement on the availability of significant coverage in reliable sources about this dude, but I'm going to leave this here and see who else might want to chime in. FalconK (talk) 03:47, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
- Falcon Kirtaran, I'd suggest a revisit of WP:SIGCOV. Starting with newsweek, even if I agreed that the article isn't about him, anyone can conclude that coverage of him is beyond a "trivial mention". The first two paragraphs (164 words) is directly about the subject and not dependent on quotes from the subject.The nation: WP:SIGCOV is not dependent on "shortness" of an article, but instead whether or not it's a trivial mention. Considering the article is only about the subject, it's not trivial.The cnn article has a 200 word lead that is not dependent on the interview with the subject.MG article, I don't even know what nonsense you're talking about with tabloid coverage and what that has to do with notability.Pulse substantiates coverage, albeit cannot be used as an independent source.This subject has coverage from CNN, Newsweek and the leading newspaper and Nigeria and you're seriously here trying to argue he's not notable? This is starting to feel as if you have some vendetta towards the subject or something and feels shady. Sulfurboy (talk) 02:54, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
- Let's go through these. It doesn't seem to me to be so clear cut. FalconK (talk) 23:43, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- Falcon Kirtaran, Seriously dude? This took all of five minutes...https://www.newsweek.com/nollywood-jason-njoku-iroko-525837https://thenationonlineng.net/jason-njoku-nbc-boss-disagree-on-nbc-code/https://www.cnn.com/2012/07/04/business/jason-njoku-iroko-nigeria/index.htmlhttps://www.modernghana.com/nollywood/34163/iroko-tv-boss-jason-njoku-caught-in-dubai-while.htmlhttps://www.pulse.ng/news/irokotvs-jason-njoku-i-feel-no-connection-with-nigeria/hmxzhj8I'd highly advise checking out WP:BEFORE, especially if you do this "quite a lot" Sulfurboy (talk) 15:41, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- Any chance you could link a few? I also did such a search and I didn't come across anything. I do this quite a lot and when I find sources I do indeed tag the article or improve it myself; I'm not trying to use this venue to force page improvement. I really don't think he meets any of our notability guidelines. FalconK (talk) 01:52, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Source assessment table: prepared by User:Falcon Kirtaran
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.newsweek.com/nollywood-jason-njoku-iroko-525837 | ? Relies heavily on quotes from the subject | ![]() |
? The lede is about him, but the article is about how he founded the company and the conclusion is about the company, so I'm not sure the article is really about him | ? Unknown |
https://thenationonlineng.net/jason-njoku-nbc-boss-disagree-on-nbc-code/ | ? Most of the article is a quote from the subject | ![]() |
? The article is extremely short | ? Unknown |
https://www.cnn.com/2012/07/04/business/jason-njoku-iroko-nigeria/index.html | ![]() |
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? The article is extremely short | ✘ No |
https://www.modernghana.com/nollywood/34163/iroko-tv-boss-jason-njoku-caught-in-dubai-while.html | ? Most of the article is a quote from the subject | ![]() |
? This is tabloid coverage but we're not claiming he's notable as a celebrity entertainer | ? Unknown |
https://www.pulse.ng/news/irokotvs-jason-njoku-i-feel-no-connection-with-nigeria/hmxzhj8 | ![]() |
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? | ✘ No |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, (t · c) buidhe 10:14, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, (t · c) buidhe 10:14, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: "AfD is not a catch-all for shit pages" -- I just have to say how much I love this line, @Sulfurboy. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 13:24, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
- Keep This Fast Company article is in depth. he also has coverage in Forbes, Techcrunch, etc. Meets WP:GNG. Expertwikiguy (talk) 04:47, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
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