Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jack Ox
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Seems like reasoned arguments in favour of the topic being notable exist and have not been contested. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 05:43, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
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I prodded it with the following rationale: "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline and the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (biographies) requirement. " It was deprodded by User:86.137.93.16 with the following rationale "removal prob notable exhibit in museum". Unfortunately a single exhibition at a museum does not, IMHO, suffice to pass WP:ARTIST. The museum in question is a notable institution, through not particularly famous (pl:Muzeum Sztuki w Łodzi). I do believe that on Polish Wikipedia having a single exhibition in a museum like this sufficies, but I think the English Wikipedia criteria are stricter. Still, I'd be interested in hearing other opinions on this - and after seeing them, I may propose adding a clarification to WP:ARTIST on how many and what exhibitions are a sign of notability, something that I feel would be worth clarifying. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:15, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Arts-related deletion discussions. FallingGravity 07:33, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
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- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. AllyD (talk) 07:57, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
- Weak delete - However, I feel that if the sentence in the "lead" had a reliable source, then this would be an unquestionable keep. --MorbidEntree - (Talk to me! (っ◕‿◕)っ♥)(please reply using {{ping}}) 07:59, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
- In the interview transcript that I added as a reference, Alvin Curran describes the subject as "quite well known for her translation of pieces of music into visual display" (though not included in the final published interview). Maybe that goes part of the way, though I have not found anything stronger yet that could support the claim. AllyD (talk) 10:06, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
- Delete non-notable artist.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:47, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. North America1000 19:22, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
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- Comment I'm surprised to see that the Muzeum Sztuki in Łódź has only a stub in English Wikipedia, but it is (as one of the oldest museums of contemporary art in the world, not just in Poland) unquestionably notable. A solo exhibition there is a very significant event. Mduvekot (talk) 23:04, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
- Keep The subject meets WP:ARTIST 4(c): has won significant critical attention. Reviews in Artform, Neue Zeitschrift für Musik and several books (I have cited Explorations in Art and Technology) establish notability. Ox's CV lists a number of publications about or including the artist, which I take to mean that adequate sources do (appear to) exist. Mduvekot (talk) 00:28, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
- Withdrawing nomination. Sources found by User:Mduvekot are indeed sufficient for ARTIST 4c and address my concerns. Thank you for saving this article! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:03, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Johnpacklambert would you want to reconsider? MorbidEntree is on a forced Wikibreak. —UY Scuti Talk 19:02, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —UY Scuti Talk 19:02, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
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