Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jack Edward Lozeron

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The result was keep. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:30, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. Sourcing relies heavily on blogs and passing mentions. The interviews don’t contribute to notability and reliability is an issue with the majority of the blog sources. Eternal Shadow Talk 22:18, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Eternal Shadow Talk 22:18, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Eternal Shadow Talk 22:18, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Alberta-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:21, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Strong keep - First of all, I really don't agree with the nominator's opinion. Collaborating with a Grammy Award winner (Skip Martin) on an album, and with the famous Mims (rapper), and with ZaZa Maree and many other well-known artists would be more than to make a musician pass WP:MUSICBIO, WP:GNG, WP:NBIO, and way more. Please review the sources again and see for yourself if they are just "blogs."

The discography is very extensive, and his albums and singles have lots of press. Clearly a notable artist.

• This is very in-depth: http://music-overload.com/artist-to-watch-up-and-coming-electronic-djproducer-jackel/
• https://mix247edm.com/behind-the-beat-redefining-sound-with-jackel/ This is an interview, but there is one entire paragraph of independent info from the writer
• Also in-depth: https://weraveyou.com/2021/02/jackel-is-starting-out-2021-with-some-fresh-beats/
• Mostly in-depth as well https://sparxentertainment.com/2015/01/21/uncensored-featuring-jackel-presented-by-sparx-entertainment/
• In-depth too: https://www.iwantedm.com/2019/04/jackel-and-his-motley-crew/

You can see that all of the above certainly aren't passing mentions.

Plus, there are hundreds (if not thousands) of very similar artists of similar notability on Wikipedia.

Undeniably notable and should be kept.

Iceball7heavens (talk) 02:25, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - significant news coverage exists from several reliable EDM publications. Boredathome101 (talk) 08:16, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - I agree that there are plenty of significant news on this one, specially the ones provided by Iceball7heavens. Mommmyy (talk) 04:40, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: most of those sources are not reliable ones, they are news aggregators, or collective blogs, so they won't pass WP:RS. Also, if this article is kept, it needs to be renamed to JackEL per WP:COMMONNAME. Richard3120 (talk) 13:35, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep He has played at Electric Daisy Carnival which is the largest EDM US festival, and perhaps the largest in the world, although this is my personal argument and not notability guidline. If we were to base it on WP:MUSICBIO, he meets criterion 4 for playing in USA and Canada and also possibly Criterion #6 with his collaboration with Skip Martin, Grammy Awards winner. Finally, there is more than enough in-depth coverage in several industry publications. Webmaster862 (talk) 02:09, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Playing at Electric Daisy Carnival isn't a big indication of notability, as DJs around the world play on the bill of festivals – I have several friends who have played at Glastonbury, Bestival, Boomtown and other dance festivals in the UK, and none of them are anywhere near notable. They've also played in the USA, Spain, Serbia and other countries, so by your criteria they would meet point 4 of WP:MUSICBIO. And I definitely think you've completely misinterpreted point 6 – making a non-notable album with a Grammy winner is an inherited notability, they aren't a regular group together. Richard3120 (talk) 16:08, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Playing EDC is a big deal. There are very few festivals of that caliber in the EDM world. But I did mention that I wasn't using that as a criteria for keeping. Subject meets WP:MUSICBIO. Webmaster862 (talk) 03:15, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Joe (talk) 14:05, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, as he has played at a huge festival.Jackattack1597 (talk) 18:55, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Subject appears to meet WP:BASIC and WP:MUSICBIO. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 06:44, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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