Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I like pie

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. --BDD (talk) 18:57, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I like pie

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This article has been unsourced since its creation in December 2011. The vast majority of the edits have been vandalism. There's really no need for it to stay. I am unable to find reliable sources discussing it as a meme. ... discospinster _talk 01:55, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as yeah, same here. Still, Discospinster, it's hard to avoid the conclusion that ur a h8er. Drmies (talk) 02:00, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Then again, did you see this version by User:Colonel Warden? There's some validity to it, so we could go there. Colonel, what do you say? Drmies (talk) 02:02, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - <takes another sip of haterade> I saw that, but I'm still not convinced. I mean, why pie and not cake? Or tiramisu? Anything could be a non sequitur! ... discospinster _talk 02:14, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - Well, it's on Urban Dictionary and even Wiktionary, so it does exist. Ansh6 6 6 02:42, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      - Ansh, I love your sense of humor. Spinster, you want more philosophy out of Wikipedia than it will ever give you. I'd be interested to hear what the Colonel has by way of explanation. For now I'm still of the delete party, where the drinks are more potent. Drmies (talk) 02:53, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
        Sense of humour? *blank look* Ansh6 6 6 03:00, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
        Well, you said it's on Urban Dictionary so it must exist. That's pretty funny. Like "twerkative"--"talkative but with twerk". Drmies (talk) 03:24, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
        Right, I forgot sarcasm doesn't carry well over the internet. Darn. My point is though, someone might search it, since it's out there, so why not redirect it to what it is? Ansh6 6 6 03:48, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
        
        I took an interest in this at prod-patrol because a friend uses this phrase as an email address and I had never understood why. Redirecting to non sequitur (literary device) seemed a good way to resolve the issue. Other possible targets include internet slang and glossary of Internet-related terms. Warden (talk) 12:00, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as Warden did before - this version violates WP:DICDEF and is a vandal-magnet. Ansh6 6 6 02:11, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete "Wikipedia is not a dictionary or a slang, jargon or usage guide. Instead, the goal of this project is to create an encyclopedia." Nwlaw63 (talk) 03:29, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete As per above.Videomaniac29 (talk) 03:58, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I don't give a rat's ass about what's on Urban Dictionary, because spending half an hour on that site demonstrates that it is, excuse the expression, "unreliable". As for the phrase, I like pie myself, but I don't think that there is anything about this phrase that justifies an encyclopedia article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:58, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- (edit conflict) I wasn't trying to claim that it was a WP:RS, I know much much better than that. It's clearly in common enough usage to be searched, as stats.grok.se shows; from experience, many slang terms and memes are quite undocumented on anywhere other than very unreliable sources like UD and blogs but spread through the social circles of youth quite rapidly (yes, you'd probably think of me as a kid even though I'm of legal age...). Also, I'm not sure if this is true, but a redirect like this might confuse potential vandals more than deletion without protection (as they'll have a "clean slate" to work with there). Ansh6 6 6 07:08, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Besides, this article isn't pie. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:02, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I like pi Warden (talk) 12:00, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Weebl and Bob. That's where this expression comes from, the main character often says "I like pie" in a voice that mentally retarded people often use. Dream Focus 13:53, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We have a winner! I'm glad we found someone who really understood this and feel truly enlightened now. Time for some celebratory pie. Mine's a rhubarb tart... Warden (talk) 14:15, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Right, that's where this is from. Wouldn't oppose a rd there, either. Ansh6 6 6 19:44, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:14, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:14, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

merge (if anything is here) to Weebl & Bob. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:16, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Q to Warden, Dream Focus, et al: can we please see some evidence that this phrase means one thing or another? Or, in the case of Weebl etc., that the phrase is known because of them and thus ought to be a redirect there? I'm all for rhubarb, but for someone who doesn't know who Weebl is, or what particular context makes this a non sequitur, it's all just leafy greens with no indication that it's, for instance, the stem we're after. Drmies (talk) 14:21, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I searched and apparently it was used on Revenge of the Nerds first, and some say they heard it in various places before them. [1] Google for "I like pie" and you get 716,000. I checked the Google news search at the top of this AFD, and see someone had "I like pie" written on the bottom of pies they sold back in the 1950's. People searching for this will most likely be after the Weebl & Bob show though. Watch any of their episodes, they say that exact sentence quite a lot. Dream Focus 23:27, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails GNG. Urban Dictionary™ is thattaway ---------> Carrite (talk) 16:57, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete...or merge...or redirect...or anything that isn't keep - Just do anything so that it isn't a couple unsourced lines and pictures of pie. öBrambleberry of RiverClan 20:22, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Get rid of ASAP: Fails our guidelines p b p 21:00, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Weebl and Bob, and fully protect that redirect. It's pretty well known for being their catchphrase, after all. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 22:00, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Clarityfiend, Carrite, and Purplebackpack89. - tucoxn\^talk 11:04, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or merge. But of course merge a photo or two into Weebl and Bob since that might be a better place for the gag. Me, on a more wholesome diet myself. Locally grown raw organic fruit...... W Nowicki (talk) 16:38, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and improve, or soft-redirect to Wiktionary. I considered doing the latter in the first place, but thought there might be enough source material to make this into an encyclopedic article, especially considering that that entry has some quotations from Usenet, suggesting a possibility that the expression predates Weebl and Bob (which is why I wouldn't redirect it there). And it's not a true non sequitur, because it does mean something, even if it's not apparent (which is why I reverted Colonel Warden's edit). B7T (talk) 00:48, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Also, I asked that this page be unprotected in the first place to allow me to edit it, based in part on the premise that since enough people had been making spurious edits to this particular page to warrant it being protected, it might be a phenomenon worthy of discussion in a real article. B7T (talk) 00:56, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per the above arguments. I would not be opposed to a redirect to Weeble and Bob, but a merge would be inappropriate due to the lack of actual sourced information here to actually merge anywhere. 64.183.45.226 (talk) 21:40, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.