Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hockey Canada Officiating Program

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The result was no consensus. – Joe (talk) 08:35, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The Hockey Canada Officiating Program appears to fails WP:GNG since I cannot locate any independent sources on the subject. I have only found information posted on web sites directly affiliated to Hockey Canada, which do not satisfy reliable sources required for GNG. Flibirigit (talk) 02:35, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Engr. Smitty Werben 04:13, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions. Engr. Smitty Werben 04:13, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Engr. Smitty Werben 04:13, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hockey Canada is a publically funded organization and receives its authority delegated through Sport Canada. Certifications are governed by Hockey Canada, in a similar way to the PMP designation is governed by the Project Management Institute. Both are internationally recognized certifications. Perhaps it's better to rebrand the article as "officiating hockey" with a section dedicated to the certification process. however it can be expected that the Hockey Canada website would be the only source available as validation for the certification. jordanleblanc (talk) 03:20, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 03:44, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 10:41, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Putting a new name on the article does not resolve the sourcing concerns. The information in the article is available only from WP:PRIMARY sources, and no secondary or tertiary sources have been found. Until the subject receives such coverage in neutral sources, it fails WP:GNG and should not be kept on Wikipedia as per WP:NOT. Flibirigit (talk) 19:02, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep. I did find two quality sources with some in depth coverage; one a peer reviewed journal article on the retention of ice hockey officials in Canada, and the other a magazine article about a journalist's experience going through the organization's training as a rookie referee. I don't have access to major Canadian newspapers, but I would imagine that the organization has coverage given its importance to ice hockey in Canada. See sources below. Also, the organization was originally named the Canadian Hockey Officiating Program according to one of those articles, so sources may exist under that name.4meter4 (talk) 19:09, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fowler, Brian, Jimmy Smith, Heidi Nordstrom, and Tyler Ferguson. "Ice Hockey Officiating Retention: A Qualitative Understanding of Junior Ice Hockey Officials' Motivations in Canada." Managing Sport and Leisure 24, no. 1-3 (2019): 18-31.
  • Rosenberg, Elmer. "TWO MINUTES FOR FLAILING: As a Rookie Referee--at 52--I Soon Learned There's Nowhere to Hide." Maclean's (Toronto) 116, no. 41 (2003): 63.
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