Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hal Stalmaster
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The result was keep. Spartaz Humbug! 23:23, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
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Possibly fails WP:NACTOR having no major roles outside being the lead of Johnny Tremain and both sources are databases. Before gave me only an interview (probably useful for facts to add to the movie article but we don't count interviews towards WP:GNG) and some mentions. Page creator was banned for persistent copyright violations. ミラP 03:15, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
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- Weak Keep: I'm conflicted over this one. The subject, as the nominator points out, likely fails WP:NACTOR because he only has one main role in a notable production—but that main role was the lead in a well-known Disney production. As for WP:GNG, he is mentioned in many articles in respect of the film, including articles on Google Scholar, in books, and reviews by Variety (https://ia601005.us.archive.org/4/items/variety206-1957-05/variety206-1957-05.pdf) and The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/1957/07/11/archives/johnny-tremain-at-neighborhood-houses.html). He is also quoted in some books in his capacity as a talent agent (https://books.google.com.au/books?id=FUdZAAAAYAAJ&q=%22Hal+Stalmaster%22+-wikipedia&dq=%22Hal+Stalmaster%22+-wikipedia&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi70N_hktDnAhXYF3IKHUupBkUQ6AEIXjAG; https://books.google.com.au/books?id=1ex5ESBl4hkC&q=%22Hal+Stalmaster%22+-wikipedia&dq=%22Hal+Stalmaster%22+-wikipedia&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi70N_hktDnAhXYF3IKHUupBkUQ6AEIczAJ). I wouldn't be averse to letting this article remain in spite of the questionable notability of the subject, but I suspect other editors may not agree. Dflaw4 (talk) 04:00, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. The movie's not particularly notable, and even in the reviews, Stalmaster barely gets a couple of passing mentions. Hardly enough to pass NACTOR. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:13, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eagles 24/7 (C) 03:04, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eagles 24/7 (C) 03:04, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Passes WP:SIGCOV. His work in Johnny Trumain has been covered in numerous publications, including scholarly articles. He has been covered for his work as a talent agent as well. In addition to the sources provided above, here are some more high quality sources.
- York, Neil L. (Fall 2008). Son of liberty: Johnny Tremain and the art of making American patriots.(Report). Vol. 6(2). p. 422(26).
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ignored (help) (extensive analysis of his performance; peer reviewed) - Lehman, Harry (Oct 22, 1971). Major Production Centers: On Camera Out West. Vol. 12(43). p. 10, 13.
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ignored (help) (work as talent agent is main subject) - Lehman, Harry (July 16, 1976). On Camera Out West. Vol. 17(29). p. 19.
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ignored (help) (profiles his career as a talent agent) - Richard M. Millard (June 29, 1979). As American as -- Well, as the Movies. p. 29.
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ignored (help) (article indicates a feature role in the Disney TV film The Swamp Fox; this would be another lead part towards satisfying WP:NACTOR)
- Ultimately there is enough here to satisfy WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 01:20, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: Per Dflaw4 and 4meter4. Article is good enough to pass WP:GNG. SUPER ASTIG 03:48, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
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