Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gugak FM (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:05, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gugak FM

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Has been tagged uncited for over a decade. Previous deletion discussion said that ‘government-licensed broadcast radio stations have been held generally notable’ but that does not show this one is notable. Chidgk1 (talk) 19:17, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Radio and South Korea. Chidgk1 (talk) 19:17, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: mentioned in [1] and in [2], but no significant coverage to establish notability. Owen× ☎ 21:40, 8 December 2023 (UTC) Changed to keep per sources found by Freedom4U. Owen× ☎ 03:05, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm really wary of deleting a national FM radio network like this. The kowiki article is little help, though it does cite a couple of articles on new transmitters for this service. There appear to be two articles in the Korea Herald from its launch in 2001, but I cannot access them. I also see it sometimes transliterated as "Kugak FM", and it gets mentioned in some of the academic literature—apparently this was an idea on the table going back to 1998. Someone with Korean language fluency and access to sources in the 1990s and 2000s could save this page. I don't have a !vote right now, but I'm skeptical of deletion. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 23:37, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Sammi Brie Your hunch was right—Google and Korean-language topics are often a terrible combo when looking for sources. I've left three SIGCOV sources in my vote below. I'd be interested in the Korea Herald article too, would it be possible to provide a link ot it? ~ F4U (talk • they/it) 01:47, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'm also on the fence.

Looking on Google Books, there's a number of mentions of Gugak FM in English. This book [3] seems to have a reasonable discussion of it, although I can't access it beyond the preview.

I think maybe the article could be rescoped to cover the parent Gugak Broadcasting Foundation [ko], which possibly has more notable coverage as it covers a wider number of stations, but I don't know who's willing to do that work (I'm not).

I'm not sure how much popularity the radio station or its parent have, although they are mildly important for Korean culture. I also doubt anyone is likely to come around in the near future and flesh out the article if we do keep it. Complicated; if it's deleted I'll be very slightly disappointed but I don't think it'll make much of an impact. toobigtokale (talk) 12:28, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 19:39, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Btw I lean delete if nobody is willing to step up in near future to fix up and save it. So many more substantial Korea-related articles are in need of fixing, think it's unlikely anyone will ever fix this organically at this rate toobigtokale (talk) 17:56, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Significant coverage here of them expanding to Busan, here going in-depth into their opening logistics, and here on their celebration of their thirteenth year open. ~ F4U (talk • they/it) 01:37, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok nvm, keep; these are better results than the quick ones I looked at. toobigtokale (talk) 02:19, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Also !voting keep. This is the kind of sourcing I was expecting to see as soon as a Korean speaker turned up. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:52, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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