Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Glass Skin (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. PhilKnight (talk) 23:12, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Glass Skin

Failed a previous AfD, the editor claims there is added info so I'm bringing it back...however, it's still got the same issues, an unreleased single fails WP:MUSIC because it can't chart if it isn't released. LegoTech·(t)·(c) 17:54, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Article fails to assert its notability, and lacks a sufficient body of content Yamakiri ^T_C § 07-4-2008 • 18:12:34 18:12, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep (of course, haha) The recent singles of this particular band have gone on to develop into lengthier articles, and since 1997, not a single single has failed to reach high in the charts in Japan's Oricon ranking system. The article is valuable to the discography section for the band as well. The article will eventually be made, and in little more than two months at that. There is information gathered from several sources that aren't available all in one place, and this conveniently and encyclopedically gathers information.
Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. If it's released, if it goes into the charts, then is the time for an article. JohnCD (talk) 18:46, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete (again), nothing has changed since last week, it still fails WP:MUSIC, and still fails WP:CRYSTAL. Esradekan Gibb ^"Talk" 21:37, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. —Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 05:15, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom NN Dreamspy (talk) 20:07, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails WP:MUSIC#SONGS. If/when it becomes notable, then it will be time for an article. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 13:22, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - What is this, if you check the main website they have already confirmed its release date and tracklisting. What more confirmation do you guys need? Who cares whether or not it hits Top 30 on Oricon or not? I've seen a lot of song articles from Japanese bands on Wiki that haven't charted on Oricon yet still haven't been deleted. What should that have anything to do with whether or not it deserved to be retained as an article? Is Wikipedia only here to promote bands that ARE popular and think nothing of any other band? There's no justice in that, and by the same token, no respect for the bands or reason for Wikipedia to exist. If something exists, then Wikipedia should have an article for it. This upcoming single exists, and if you want verification, go to Dir en grey's main website, which is already referenced both in the main article for Dir en grey AND for the single pending deletion. It's understandable that the article got deleted for the first time due to uncertainty and lack of verification, but the evidence is there on the main website now. There should be no reason to suppress this artice solely on the fact that it doesn't chart on Oricon. It is an upcoming release, and should be labelled as such. DEADication (talk) 08:30, 10 July 2008 (UTC) DEADication (talk) 01:34, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Wikipedia does not exist to promote bands of any kind. Having an article in Wikipedia is not about "deserving" one or "justice", it is a matter of notability. We cannot/should not have an article about everything that exists. My nephew was in his junior high's musical. He does not have an article, but Robert Preston does. My nephew is not, at the moment, a notable actor. Robert Preston is. We've set up guidelines for separating the notable from the not notable. For singles, it's WP:MUSIC#SONGS. This one fails that standard. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 14:38, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.