Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/GfxEditor

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedy delete. One author who has requested deletion. decltype (talk) 19:30, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GfxEditor

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Looks like non-notable web/software. It's only just been released in beta, and the only references are to the site itself -- Boing! said Zebedee 07:41, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. -- -- Lear's Fool (talk | contribs) 08:12, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. -- -- Lear's Fool (talk | contribs) 08:12, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not fair to exclude GfxEditor. Look at the wikipedia page of the other online graphic editors: Picnik and Aviary_(application_suite). Why are they allowed and not GfxEditor? GfxEditor pretty much follow the same guidelines as they. They only reference to themselves as well. So is it only because GfxEditor is in Beta and they are not? That would not be fair. Lots of web software are released in beta and stays in beta for years, very common with f.ex. Google_Apps. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mersicainc (talk • contribs) 18:05, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not justification for keeping an article -- Boing! said Zebedee 23:45, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - No coverage in reliable sources. Just download links and whatnot. -- Whpq (talk) 16:18, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Don't Delete - I have added some additional notable information to the page. This product was created by member of group TRSI. There are some references to products released by the creator of GfxEditor that goes under the alias name T-Bone from above mentioned group TRSI. So there is a connection between TRSI and GfxEditor, some external references were added.

Also GfxEditor is the first graphic design and DTP application to fully integrate with world leading merchandize fulfillment company Zazzle, this is a major innovation, and facts can be seen on the reference to Zazzle and You tube videos reference seen on GfxEditor home page.

TRSI page need to be and will soon be updated to contain reference to GfxEditor. Because I will write about how old members of the group went on to become entrepreneurs of some todays innovative software applications.

So is this enough notable stuff for you or should I find some more? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mersicainc (talk • contribs) 02:38, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can see no independent mention of GfxEditor in those new links you have added. Updating the TRSI page to mention GfXEditor does not count as a reference, because it is independent references from outside of WIkipedia that we want. Also, notability is not inherited, so even if people related to TRSI went on to do great things, that notability does not transfer to GfxEditor. To qualify for its own article, GfxEditor needs to be notable in its own right and covered by reliable sources in its own right. For details of notability, please see WP:N, which starts by saying...

"If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article.

* "Significant coverage" means that sources address the subject directly in detail, and no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material"

(I have emphasised, in bold, the two parts that I think you need to pay attention to).

-- Boing! said Zebedee 09:41, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, not notable. --Nuujinn (talk) 16:43, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I you guys are right, Delete it, I'll try again in 3-6 months, by them there will be some independent reviews.

Just 1 question, will it be ok to update the TRSI page with parts of the text from the GfxEditor page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mersicainc (talk • contribs) 16:46, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just my opinion, but I would have thought a brief mention of it on the TRSI page would be ok - you don't need the same level of notability to mention something in passing in a related article. I really wish you every success and I hope this software does achieve the notability needed for its own article - best of luck -- Boing! said Zebedee 17:01, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, a suggestion - it might be worth taking a copy of the existing article and keeping it in your own user space (eg by creating User:Mersicainc/GfxEditor), so you can come back to it later -- Boing! said Zebedee 17:04, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'll do that, thank you for taking the time to review the GfxEditor page and for the suggestions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mersicainc (talk • contribs) 17:28, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete G7 Author has blanked the page to request deletion - I've tagged it -- Boing! said Zebedee 18:24, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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