Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gerald Lascelles

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 02:51, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gerald Lascelles

member of the extended royal family but apparently not in line to the crown. I also nominate his son Henry Lascelles and grandchild Maximilian Lascelles. Ohconfucius 12:50, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all as per nom. As per Ardric47 below Dlyons493 Talk 14:09, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as non notable. Fails WP:ROYAL. Thε Halo ^Θ 14:36, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Note that WP:ROYAL states notability as "no more than 8th in the line of succession"- Gerald was 7th at the time of his birth. Astrotrain 23:09, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Gerald Lascelles is not in line to the crown anymore because he died in 1998. However, he was 48th or so in line prior to his death. --Metropolitan90 17:35, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep- notable as a grandson of King George V and a member of the British Royal Family. Note that at the time of his birth he was 7th in the line of succession. Astrotrain 18:39, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Astrotrain. Dinosaur puppy 20:50, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete being distantly in the line of succession is not, in and of itself, sufficient to confer notability and the article makes no attempt to establish any further notability. Eusebeus 21:31, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- He isn't in the line of succession any more- as he is dead. And the article is a stub- it needs more information- not to be deleted. Astrotrain 23:05, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yes I read the article, but the point is made in the abstract. Stub or no, there is no assertion of notability. Eusebeus 00:47, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment WP:ROYAL says that a notable member of a royal family is "spouse of the reigning monarch, any or all surviving spouses of a deceased monarch, and the children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts, and cousins of the reigning monarch, as well as their spouses." The bolded words apply to Gerald Lascelles. Dinosaur puppy 02:01, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See [1] Eusebeus 04:03, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Most people probably can't say that they are the grandson or cousin of a monarch. (George V and Elizabeth II) Dinosaur puppy 06:28, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Given that more than 1/2 of the people are female, most people can't say they have a penis. Are all males therefore notable? Puh-lease. Carlossuarez46 03:08, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That is completely irrelevant. Only a handful of people are grandchildren of monarchs. Ardric47 20:36, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as per other articles nominated by same user -- Roleplayer 02:41, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete nn Matthew Fenton (Talk | Contribs) 14:46, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Gerald, Delete Henry & Maximilian Gerald actually seemed to do something in his life other than marry and procreate (apparently Henry's only achievements and Max -- all of 14 years old -- hasn't even got that far); he was president of a notable racing association (other presidents of which have included Jackie Stewart, so it's a real thing rather than a bunch of guys (blokes) getting together to see who crashes at the Grand Prix). Carlossuarez46 03:06, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Gerald as clearly notable (grandson of a monarch) and merge Henry and Maximilian into Gerald's article. Ardric47 20:34, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom Mad Jack 23:20, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per Ardric47 and Astrotrain, this person met WP:ROYAL while alive. RFerreira 22:08, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.