Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Geetanjali University
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Many keep !voters repeated "Accredited degree-granting university" but have been unable to indicate which policy requires that such organizations be kept. Stifle (talk) 11:02, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
Geetanjali University
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Page is promoting a group of colleges. No actual information. Didn’t find any solid news with good description of the university. Laptopinmyhands (talk) 02:12, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 05:14, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 05:14, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- Weak Delete: as per nom. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NORG. But a second assessment can be made if this article is improved during the course of this AfD discussion. Suggested assessment guidelines: WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES and WP:HEY. -Hatchens (talk) 06:32, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- Keep accredited degree issuing university affiliated to the University Grants Commission (India).Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 10:13, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. Accredited degree-granting university. We invariably keep these. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:19, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 13:19, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete it doesn't look like anyone has improved the article since it was nominated for deletion and I can't find anything to do improve it with. So as things currently are there isn't a guideline based reason to keep the article. Circular nonsense like "keep because we usually keep these" doesn't really cut it either. --Adamant1 (talk) 02:35, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- See WP:CONSENSUS. So no, not "nonsense". Consensus that these are kept. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:04, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- Consensus to keep? Interesting! Can you prove that. See also: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Islamic Azad University, Mahshahr Branch, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ellington University, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Islamic Azad University, Mahshahr Branch, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cantonment College, Cumilla. All deleted. And Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Technological University of the Philippines – Taguig - redirected. I fail to see the consensus to keep no matter what. The Banner talk 13:57, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- See WP:CONSENSUS. So no, not "nonsense". Consensus that these are kept. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:04, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- Keep, because it is an accredited degree granting university.Jackattack1597 (talk) 20:18, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:22, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG and WP:NSCHOOLS. Given sources are either listings, related or "we have a party"-type. A WP:BEFORE did not give any in-depth sources. The Banner talk 13:50, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 21:14, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep A recognized University accredited degree granting program. JoyStick101 (talk) 05:18, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comment This is a commercial university so right policy would be WP:NCORP. Laptopinmyhands (talk) 14:37, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
- Are you sure about that? I can't immediately provide a source for this but I thought that all private educational institutions in India had to be run on a non-profit basis in order to receive official accreditation. Have things changed recently? Phil Bridger (talk) 17:52, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: to see if non profit v. commercial can be ascertained. Would also suggest more policy-based !votes would help with consensus vs. WP:THISISHOWWEVEALWAYSDONEIT,
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 01:57, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete About the non-profit nature, it's common knowledge that the law is followed only in letter and not at all in spirit. From a brief search, I think this -
Such pursuance of profit is often masked by a two-tier legal structure by setting up a trust that runs the school, and a company that owns the assets (land, building, etc.) and provides services (management and technology), thus receiving payment in return
from here summarises the practice well, which is further elaborated upon in this op-ed. This ET article from 2010 carries specific examples (note that the company it delves into, Career Point Infosystems, services two universities. One was deleted in a recent AfD, other remains for now). I don't know whether NCORP can be said to apply, but feel entirely comfortable voting delete since I'm unable to see anything passing WP:GNG. Hemantha (talk) 17:53, 13 March 2022 (UTC) - Delete per Hemantha. TrangaBellam (talk) 19:08, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Fully agree with Hemantha Ji. All such private universities pretend to be non profit but charge big fee to students. Laptopinmyhands (talk) 01:27, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- Charging a big fee to students does't necessarily mean that a university extracts a profit (look at, for example, many leading American universities). The owners of this particular university may do so, but that is something that should be sourced, not assumed. Phil Bridger (talk) 10:13, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
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