Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frank Rocholl

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. The only "keep" !vote was advanced by the article's creator, but nobody has commented on the additional sources linked here, and this has already been open almost 4 weeks. —Darkwind (talk) 23:28, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Rocholl

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One more bio written to promote people related to a obscure non-notable magazine. Written by a WP:SPA. damiens.rf 19:08, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Promotional article that does not show how it could go over the treshold for WP:BASIC. --Ben Ben (talk) 12:18, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep WP:author The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique.

In this case:

Creation of the global visual communication concept for the smart car
Creation of a typeface family, distributed international by fontshop
Creation of a global fashion and culture magazine

Similar article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franck_Durand — Preceding unsigned comment added by Silverhaze01 (talk • contribs) 23:48, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 19:57, 11 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, buff bills 7701 00:09, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Question. Three claims for Rocholl are made above. I took the first of these: Creation of the global visual communication concept for the smart car. I then looked in the article for the string "smart". All that I found was: From 1996 to 1997 he worked as a creative director for the design agency Meiré und Meiré, in charge of implementing the corporate design of the Smart Car. This is not sourced. Where does Smart, Daimler or an independent source say this? (And if a "global visual communication concept" matters, what does it mean? The notion sounds vaguely Frankfurtian to me.) If there's no good source for a claim, the claim is worthless. -- Hoary (talk) 23:11, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Note. All printed essays and articles from the guys bibliography listing can be found in this pdf:

http://rocholl.cc/rocholl/frontend/media/essays_english.pdf

These two sources about his Mirage Magazine work are secondary: http://www.itsnicethat.com/articles/publication-mirage-1 "The best part of this magazine as well as the truly, truly fantastic graphic design, is that whilst it is predominantly filled with photos of half naked women, there is an air of respect present that is so rare in magazines of this ilk.". Interview about the inspirational sources for Mirage Magazine http://www.perfectlounge.ch/5-fragen-an-frank-rocholl/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Silverhaze01 (talk • contribs) 23:09, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Secondary Sources Two more secondary sources have been added:

Interview in PAGE Online Magazine 25.03.2011 about the relaunch of Ramp magazine: http://www.page-online.de/emag/kreation/artikel/ramp?cid=2 Article in Schirn Kunsthalle Online Magazine about Glam! The Performance of Style exhibition http://www.schirn-magazin.de/Glam-Architektur-Atelier-Markgraph.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Silverhaze01 (talk • contribs) 10:59, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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