Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/François Pain
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The result was Keep as per consensus. Non-admin closure. Warrah (talk) 01:11, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
François Pain
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Appears that one of his films was once shown at the Pompidou, but I can't verify exactly what the book says because it's only snippet view in Google Books. This doesn't seem to satisfy WP:CREATIVE. Not anything significant in Google News, as far as I can see. Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:11, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. From looking at the Google Books snippets it would appear that the subject's main claim to notability is as an activist for free radio, in which cause it appears that he was imprisoned. It's difficult to tell conclusively as I don't have physical access to the publications, but there seem to be several pages about the subject in this book, and this episode was important enough to be given a name ("Affaire Pain") by L'Express [1] Phil Bridger (talk) 17:57, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Also discussed in the records of a French National Assembly debate on Nov 18 1979, where a speaker says: "Dois-je encore évoquer l'affaire Pain, ce cinéaste «reconnu » sur photographie, inculpé, incarcéré et poursuivi en vertu de la loi anti-casseurs six mois après les faits" [2] AllyD (talk) 19:37, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep and improve. Subject is linked in the English article on Lebel. Also other links in French Wikipedia pages: [3], [4]. AllyD (talk) 18:07, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- How do these mentions establish that he is notable? I'm not seeing it. Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:11, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:46, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletions. – Ty 02:08, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep He has exhibited at the Centre Pompidou, which is significant. The google searches indicate a number of sources, all in French. As my French is faible I can only make out that the sources appear to be beyond trivial. His connections to Guattari, while fascinating, muddy the water a bit, as far as independent notability is concerned. However, with the help of some native or near-native French speakers, we could suss out the sources further. freshacconci talktalk 03:38, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per evidence above attesting to notability. Ty 02:33, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Seems encyclopedic and notable...Modernist (talk) 05:45, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Notability in France is notability for en.Wikipedia. I do not read French, but found sources are compelling enough to allow this to remain and be improved by those fluent in the language [5], [6]. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 18:29, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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