Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Final Fantasy N64

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. But since the split was between merging and deleting, I'll do a redirect myself to Final Fantasy SGI demo. If anyone wants to merge content there, feel free to go through the history and do so. · Katefan0^(scribble) 19:52, 14 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Badly written, and no pages get here. Maybe move content to FFVI page.(the website in the page, I´ve already seen something about it...[1]) igordebraga ≠ 00:00, 2 October 2005 (UTC) (oh, I just found out:ALREADY EXISTS!)[reply]

• Keep! Here are my reasons.
  • It is a pre-release stub for a new game, where the other games in the series have articles. E.g. final fantasyFinal Fantasy VII etc. etc. & etc. We should allow this article to develop.
  • The VfD was added a less than 20 hours after the article was started. The article was started on 05:22, 1 October 2005.
  • It is easy for the non-gamers to dismiss all these games. I mean, people just spend hours on them instead of doing something constructive like browsing E-bay or www.woot.com.
    • We need to welcome these young people and not view their musings as less important than Iressa or GIST. These young slackers are our future. They are the future of Wikipedia. One day, when our arthritic fingers fail to connect with the correct key on the keyboard, when our eyesights collectively fail and our brains turn to mush, gamers with access to pre-released games, young ones like User:FlareNUKE will continue to post. Word after word. Article after article. Wikipedia will be saved by the teenie bopper gamers.

Joaquin Murietta 00:24, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: I don't think it's a pre-release; but rather, a game that was once to be released, but was not [2]. HollyAm 00:34, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep It needs certainly work and linkage, but so do most articles when they start out. Sonic Mew | talk to me 00:37, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect per Seancdaug. Sonic Mew | talk to me 13:16, 8 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: Unreleased or not, it's still a game ( Sonic X-treme ) --FlareNUKE 07:12, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Changing to merge with the demo thing, sorry, didn't know it existed :( --FlareNUKE 07:08, 8 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. It'll still probably come out long before Duke Nukem Forever. --Merovingian (t) (c) 01:42, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Private Butcher 02:35, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge or Delete It never been released and never will be that now that N64 dont make games no more. Maybe merge the content to Final Fantasy beacuse this dont deserve an article on its own --JAranda | yeah 02:46, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • What about all the other games consoles out there? Granted, a redirect may be needed in the future, but the Final Fantasy line continues. Sonic Mew | talk to me 04:22, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge with Final Fantasy VII. However, there is also compelling evidence for a delete: "Final Fantasy N64 SGI Demo" gets only 23 hits on Google, and three big VG websites have the exact same writeup about it. -- Grev -- Talk 07:17, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - I remember this demo. It shows Locke and the rest of the Final Fantasy VI people in 3D. I don't see how you can write an article about just a demo/speculation. --J. Nguyen 15:21, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per User:J. Nguyen. -Nameneko 18:51, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Games that were never released are not notable. This information could best be merged into one sentence on the main Final Fantasy article, as "A Final Fantasy game for the N64 was planned by Squaresoft, but was soon abandoned after Squaresoft decided to join Sony and work on Final Fantasy VII." --Revolución (talk) 19:30, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Revolución and Grev. And by the by, the people that write fancruft could start saving WP now if they'd just stop. The chances of them being WP's saviors is about as likely as Willy on Wheels being Jimbo's work buddy. Bollocks to teeny bopper gamers. Up with RickK and his ilk. --Blackcap | talk 22:02, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as it stands. Conjectural and uncertain. If it is "a game that was once to be released, but was not" then Aboslutely delete. That it was nominated in 20 minutes is not a fault. We should be careful at the door. Marskell 00:22, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete--Rogerd 05:59, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete or Merge as above (with merge as preference) -- Ryan Norton ^{T | @ | C} 09:23, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete or Redirect - This either needs to be deleted or redirected to Final Fantasy VII or better yet Final Fantasy SGI demo. ~ Hibana 19:00, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect. The entire thing is a poorly researched bastardization of content already present at Final Fantasy SGI demo: not only does it duplicate information present in the aforementioned article, but it presents fannish speculation as fact. To wit, it is a technical demo, not a "game that was once to be released, but was not," and was never tied to the Nintendo 64. The only connection it had to that console is that the SGI workstations used to produce it had some technical similarities to the N64 hardware. Any statement beyond that, particularly without references to support it, is speculation. – Seancdaug 19:56, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and expand. It is an interesting article about an unreleased game. Carioca 22:45, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge the content to Final Fantasy SGI demo and expand, if possible. Redirect Final Fantasy 64 to Final Fantasy SGI demo. Carioca 02:56, 7 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Changing to merge with Final Fantasy SGI demo. It's... Thelb4! 06:53, 5 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Keep the content and move it to FFVII or FFVI, or better yet, both. Maybe a mention on the Final Fantasy overview page as well. It doesn't need it's own page by any stretch of the imagination. Coyote-37 10:15, 6 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Changing my vote to merge with Final Fantasy SGI demo. --Merovingian (t) (c) 07:59, 7 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Final Fantasy VII There is nothing here that needs its own article. Amren ^(talk) 13:38, 8 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Final Fantasy SGI demo both articles are about the same topic. --JiFish(Talk/Contrib) 13:09, 9 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Final Fantasy SGI demo. -- ReyBrujo 01:34, 10 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.