Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fakhro

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 23:34, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fakhro

The article was Proposed for deletion by User:9ayyad on 27 June 2009 with the concern, "Based on lies and has no reference, I am part of a group that is documenting the history of the middle east and most of what is said here is not true." Such factual disagreements are best handled via AfD, rather than PROD. Cnilep (talk) 18:24, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Saudi Arabia-related deletion discussions. —Cnilep (talk) 18:46, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. —Cnilep (talk) 18:46, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment from nominator: I have no opinion toward deletion, but feel that, since the objections are factual rather than procedural, discussion is necessary. I note that currently the article has no references as such, but does have a list of external links. Cnilep (talk) 18:54, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete individuals might be notable but i cant find anything on the family as a subject. --neon white talk 22:37, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep 3 of the people have Wikipedia articles already. Based on their positions, at least 6 or 8 of the others could also ,as cabinet ministers or chairmen of major companies.Actual refs are needed, but it seems notable. DGG (talk) 04:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC) .[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:40, 5 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. While the individuals could be notable, that doesn't make the name notable. If that were the case, we'd have to say everyone with that name has automatic notability. Niteshift36 (talk) 01:57, 5 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete An article could be written about a certain family, Bush family Kennedy family, but not about a family name, or everyone with that name. Major BLP problems if information is uncited, especially since anything negative, or that could be negative to somebody, reflects on all the other people mentioned in the article. Steve Dufour (talk) 04:25, 5 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This article starts out "Fakho is the family name..." which is a mistake. If all the people were closely related and connected, as are the Bushs and Kennedys covered in those family articles, then there could be an article on the "Fakho family." As it is it looks like anyone of some importance with that name is thrown into the "family." Steve Dufour (talk) 04:30, 5 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete A lot of information mentioned about the family is not true and based on lies, I have read a lot of books about middle eastern families and Fakhro family was not mentioned the way it is on the Fakhro page and it got mentioned in early books and not in old books. The family origins and the history of the family along with the names and titles and some positions of the people that got mentioned on the page are not true.9ayyad (talk) 22:28, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.