Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/F*INK

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The result was no consensus. –Juliancolton ^Talk · ^Review 18:28, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

F*INK

Appears to fail WP:N. Notability is not shown. Unable to find evidence of significant coverage by reliable sources Taroaldo (talk) 21:18, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - appears to violate WP:N and WP:SPAM --Mhking (talk) 21:20, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Hi, I cannot understand why you think this article is not worthy to be included in Wikipedia. This free weekly guide survived an amazing 12 years, supported all kinds of local arts activity and communities, and the publication has now closed so this article is not an advertisement. I would like some help and assistance rather than deletion! :Cargill208 (talk) 22:09, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment Technically it isn't possible to have an adverisement for something that has ceased publication. Yes, there are stylistic issues but that is not grounds for deletion.dramatic (talk) 22:23, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Missing reliable sources, not enough notability and possibly ad/spam. Versus22_talk 22:20, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep - article contains too much POV/OR material, but exhibition by one of NZ's largest Libraries is some indication of notability, provided non-trivial sources can be found. (e.g. was there a newspaper feature in the ODT based around the exhibition?)dramatic (talk) 22:23, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The information I saw did not indicate that the library initiated the exhibit. In my area, major libraries have exhibit rooms which can be booked by someone wishing to put on an exhibit. This type of situation would not qualify as notability. Taroaldo (talk) 22:53, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. dramatic (talk) 22:23, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again, I have found two references to f*INK: one is 'The Rough Guide to New Zealand' Third edition. ed. Laura Harper, Tony Mudd, Paul Whitfield. p.743. Rough Guides Limited, London, 2002. The quote reads "For the latest on the Dunedin Sound, check out f*INK the free entertainment pamphlet available all around town, including the visitor centre (or see www.fink.net.nz), which keeps track of Dunedin's bands, singers and songwriters." [1] :Cargill208 (talk) 22:45, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The second source is 'Lonely Planet New Zealand'. Harding, P., Bain, C., Bedford, N. 11th Edition. Lonely Planet Publications Pty Ltd, Sydney, 2002. p591. "ENTERTAINMENT: The Otago Daily Times newspaper lists what's on around the city, but the best publication is the free f*INK, available around town or online at www.fink.net.nz." :Cargill208 (talk) 22:50, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Information such as this is basically a directory entry; doesn't indicate notability. (Yellowpages for tourists.) Now if these publications had written feature articles on the subject, that would be different. Taroaldo (talk) 23:00, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I will have to do more research at the Dunedin Public Library to find information that validates the hard work done over twelve years. The publication was not some throwaway guide, it was a hub for creative communities before the internet became easy to use and popular. The fact that little was written about it seems to consign it to the dustbin of history, and yet the musical groups and bands that it supported all have pages in Wikipedia. see Dunedin Sound. Thanks for your help with this, how long do I have before my page is deleted? Cargill208 (talk) 23:14, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Typically five days, but if it is deleted then and you find something to show notability afterwards it can always be undeleted again. --Amalthea 23:21, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - The references you have found so far would be sufficient to support a short mention at Dunedin#Media. F*INK could then redirect there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by dramatic (talk • contribs) 01:44, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merge/redirect to Dunedin#Media per dramatic if no additional sources can be found. Cunard (talk) 00:50, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. User shows good faith; give the article a chance to revelop with references. -- Chzz ► 02:46, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Very weak keep. F*INK is certainly very well-known locally in Dunedin, and there are some potential references. It's definitely be at the bottom end of the notability scale, though (it's hardly the ODT or Channel 9). Failing that, a merge in to Dunedin#media seems a viable move. Grutness...wha? 22:14, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.