Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Escambia County Fire Rescue

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 07:56, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Escambia County Fire Rescue (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)

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No sources at all. Links to poorly done website that doesn't support half the information on the page. Zackmann08 (talk) 21:45, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - see comment below. Need more information from nominator: @Zackmann08: No sources is not a reason for deletion. Please explore WP:DEL-REASON and provide better reasoning: you need to demonstrate that the article doesn't meet WP:Notability requirements, Sadads (talk) 22:04, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - The National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) estimated there were 30,125 fire departments in the United States in 2010. That number has certainly risen in the past 5 years and this is just in the United States. While we could indeed include the article Escambia County Fire Rescue in Wikipedia, given the sheer number of such entities worldwide and the impracticality of including them all here, I believe that only the most notable fire departments should be included here. Ormr2014 (talk) 23:36, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:12, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Ormr2014 and Zackmann08: From a cursorary glance at Google News: online there seems to be considerable commentary about this particular fire department, and the history/creation of it (for example, [1] , [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]); the organization has been covered by both a regional NPR station as well as two local publications, and I imagine if I dug more, there would be more; these alone makes it notable. I am not saying that we should collect an article on every fire department, but this one meets WP:GNG, and lack of sourcing in this particular article and/or a claim of too many stations are not deletion claims (they are reasons to improve the article). Both of you are making arguments that would matter if there is a limit to the size (or quality) of Wikipedia, but remember, we are WP:NOTPAPER and everything is WP:WORKINPROGRESS thus we do not have to be limited: rather we should be working to rescue this page. Please point to a specific WP:DEL-REASON or topic specific Notability guideline AND sufficient evidence that the research on the topic would be insufficient. Sadads (talk) 13:12, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - WP is not the White Pages! The whole article is addresses, phone numbers and statistics. Looking through the search doesn't show anything. I see a lot of these popping up about police and fire departments and I'm thinking that people are overestimating the number of hits that are returned in local press and are not familiar with WP:ORGDEPTH. Opening a new station, running a toys-for-tots program, commenting on a fire/incident, or having employees come/go (without any kind of scandal) are just normal, everyday things. This one about the possible cutbacks and also this one saying they're going to hold a vote on hiring more firefighters is not notable enough to support the department having its own article. It's entirely ordinary. Unless the firefighters become pyromaniacs or quit en masse, I don't see how it would merit more than one sentence. It just doesn't qualify as significant coverage on more than one event. —Мандичка^YO 😜 17:45, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:35, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Per no notability, couldn't find a lot about it through a Google search. SilverSurfingSerpant (talk) 11:32, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Not every fire department needs a Wikipedia article, and clearly fails WP:GNG and WP:CORP. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:34, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - fails WP:GNG. As another editor pointed out "There [are] 30,125 fire departments in the United States" as of 2010. To create one and vouchsafe its notability is to open the floodgates. I have nothing but respect and admiration for the overwhelming majority of firefighters who risk their lives to save others but this article is well-meaning but parochial. Quis separabit? 12:35, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment @Rms125a@hotmail.com: well said. I would point out something though. There are also 39,044 cities in the United States. And they all DO get a page. Personally my issue is that the page has nothing cited and doesn't have anything supporting the claims it makes. If the Escambia County Fire Rescue website had any information about the stations and their apparatus, I would personally feel very differently about having this page. As it is though it basically just says "There is a fire department in this city." Which is great... I kind of assumed that there was... It doesn't add anything though. Just my 2 cents. --Zackmann08 (talk) 18:05, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.